Ok. This seems to be working. Knock on silicon. It's about as easy as it's going to get.
1. Install firefox (ignore what I said about browser-agnostic) 2. Create a profile for TW files and boot with it the following steps 3. In the settings, set your download dir to the the root of your system (usually C:\) 4. Reboot FF with profile 5. In the add-ons, look for PMarios' file-backups. Install. 6. Reboot FF with profile 7. Create a short-cut for the FF with profile, if desired. Now any TW files inside your main file system will use the file-backups to save. You can make other profiles if you have other drives (e.g. flash drives) where you need to save. Note that if you change your download directory, you may have to reboot FF. Think of FF-with-profile as its own app. No executables are required except FF. No additional servers or processes running. No configuration files. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 7:03:52 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: > > Folks, > > This post is seeking input from the community to overcome what I perceive > to be the last big issue in saving. It may seem only suited to experienced > users but perhaps you know something we don't, so please be brave and > contribute. > > I may have an opportunity in coming months to work with a team of > videographers in their off season. They do "things for good" and my thought > was to build a nice application (on tiddlywiki) for people to explore how > they or their business can participate in reaching the *Sustainable > Development Goals (SDG's)*. This will promote the SDG's, their work, my > work and the power of TiddlyWiki, but there seems to me, to still be an > elephant in the room - saving. > > *How do we enable saving tiddlywikis for naive and casual users?* > > To be sure, I am across most saving mechanisms, and some are very good and > quite easy to set up a very sophisticated solution, I use Timimi, > TiddlyServer, TiddlyDesktop and Bob.exe > > Imagine someone visits my SDG app online > > - They could use it and apply changes but not save it > - With local storage and save some changes in the browser but they may > be lost later > - They Can download it easily enough, even with their in browser or > local storage content > - But if they wish to open it again, make changes and save they then > need to consider this https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted - scary > for many. > > Basically I think tiddlywiki is brilliant and we have lots of wonderful > options for saving, once someone gets involved with the ecosystem, I > believe any nodeJS solution is hard to secure on the internet and like > NoteSelf we have to manage the server, but it seems we are so close to a > better single file solution (My Opinion). > > I know some saving mechanisms come close to helping *naive and casual > users* however their remains a need to take unfamiliar steps, that can be > quite fragile, especially to those not overly computer literate. Saving > under downloads folders, running batches and installing local apps are all > impediments to *naive and casual users* in my view, as this becomes > Operating system dependant, demands more trust, will not work in many > locked down cases and more. > > I am starting this thread to try and inspire some serious creativity to > overcome this barrier. Here are some ideas floating in my head but I am > keen to hear from you. > > - Any idea is a good idea > - A diversity of ideas in needed > - We may need to "think outside the box" > - Can an existing solution be better engineered to meet these goals? > > Some of my own musings > > - One approach may be to never download the whole wiki, but store the > changes in a separate file that is automatically loaded over the in > browser > one, and saved only by saving changes back to the nominated file. > - Building all the necessary content to install Timimi or another > saver from the single wiki (No other document or external info required) > Not yet chrome and IE > - A Form of bob.exe/TiddlyDesktop that can be loaded with a custom > tiddlywiki that shows only that wiki unless some settings are changed in > the control panel. Ie a single local installable. > - A Way of packaging a TiddlyWiki with Node.exe and hosting on a port > that will not clash with other server hosts, perhaps an packaged extension > of TiddlySaver. > - I was inspired to open this up to the community after playing with > bookmarklets > and Jeremy's solution > > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/bookmarklets%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/pTInT6T4gMs/iJV5P-RPAgAJ> > because > javascript can be loaded into bookmarks I wonder if it could be used to > save changes to local tiddlywiki files and reimport on click. > - I also looked at solutions such as > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMacros which suggests there may be > other ways to achieve the desired results. > - IPFS, BeakerBrowser, CouchDB or saving to a MYSQL or even a > wordpress database? > > > All I want for Christmas is a simple way for *naive and casual users *to > save their tiddlywiki (again and again) > > Yours Sincerely > Tony > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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