David,

It's not the full story but the codeMirror plugin handles tabs and new 
lines well. I use it when writing macros to keep them clear and well 
structured.

I have always being a fan of easy to use outliners. They provide a 
hierarchical structure. But tiddlywiki can go beyond hierarchical.

My feeling is that tiddlywiki has more than the possibility to act as an 
outliner, in fact I think the Code Mirror or Visual editor can help within 
a single tiddler. 

If you want each item in the outline to be a seperate tiddler, you do need 
to decide if you have an independent title or an automatically generated 
one behind the scenes.

I think this needs more work to define the best way to tackle outlining. 
Your notes are a start.

regards
Tony


On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 2:52:26 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>
>
>
>> could you please enlighten me on the game changer feature or concept of 
>> Dynalist??
>>
>
> For me, the basic advantage of an outliner program (Dynalist, Workflowy, 
> Roam) is the writing experience. Everything is in bullet points. Hit enter 
> to start a new line, hit tab to indent, and when you hit enter for a new 
> line, your next line is also indented to that level, etc. And by dragging 
> the bullets you can rearrange the order and indenting of any line. So it is 
> a really great way to write, and to order and reorganize one's thoughts on 
> a topic. Very freeing compared to writing in TiddlyWiki: in TiddlyWiki, if 
> you use the unordered list, you need to do shift+8 to add * or ** or *** 
> every new line, or write loosely, use a toolbar button to add one * for 
> every line, and manually add the extra levels of * for the lines that need 
> it. If you don't use bulleted lists, new paragraphs require two newlines, 
> not one, and indenting requires other actions that take one away from 
> typing (wrapping in a span class, or using : , which only affects the first 
> line, etc). And these delays really add up.
>
> Another advantage of outliners is that if you have a pro account you can 
> drag images right into it, and copy the link to insert them wherever you 
> want. Another is that you can add tags to each line and do searches for 
> tags across multiple outliner documents. 
>
> There was a way, probably still exists, to replicate the 'ordered list / 
> enter for new line / tab for indent' experience in TiddlyWiki, but the cost 
> was too high for me - it meant losing access to the editortoolbar. I think 
> it also required a different tiddler type, and if I remember, there were 
> other drawbacks as well associated with that aspect. If there were a way to 
> do enter-and-tab without such a huge cost, I would use TiddlyWiki for 
> almost everything, and would not feel much pressure to switch between 
> Tiddlywiki and outliners. Although Roam....very enticing once they get 
> their defects weeded out.
>
> I hope that answers your question about the game changer features.
>

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