Thanks Tony for your thoughts. I did look at the Code Mirror plugin, but unfortunately I think that may be beyond me. There is only so much learning curve I can take at a time.
I am thinking of assigning * a key on my keyboard so I don't have to shift. That might be enough. On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: > > David, > > It handles indents but not the wikitext bullets, it allows the tab key, in > indent in further and further, but as its not wikitext it renders without > the tabs. Perhaps we can get tabs accepted by the wiki text parser to be > honored during rendering including the forced new line. > > Your you information I often find staring a line with ";" and ":" > simi-colon heading, and colon indented helpful. I am keen to add a "." > period that makes a paragraph (discussed elsewhere). > > I note it seems to store tab characters (not yet confirmed) so I would not > be surprised if we can use a macro or parsing to turn it into a bulleted > list. Given it accepts tabs, perhaps a keyboard macro that inserts a tab > and an * at the beginning of the text would help? > > I am keen to maximise the ease of entry and organising within wiki text. > You can follow a leading character such as semi-colon with a .classname > eg > ;.classname > to apply css > > Regards > Tony > > > > On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 12:17:08 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: >> >> Hi Tony >> >> I will look at the Code Mirror plugin. I don't need all the functionality >> of an outliner, such as dragging points to reorder them. and I don't need >> each new line to be a tiddler. I just need to be able for each new line to >> start with a * and indenting to change the * to **, ***, etc. >> >> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 9:37:04 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> David, >>> >>> It's not the full story but the codeMirror plugin handles tabs and new >>> lines well. I use it when writing macros to keep them clear and well >>> structured. >>> >>> I have always being a fan of easy to use outliners. They provide a >>> hierarchical structure. But tiddlywiki can go beyond hierarchical. >>> >>> My feeling is that tiddlywiki has more than the possibility to act as an >>> outliner, in fact I think the Code Mirror or Visual editor can help within >>> a single tiddler. >>> >>> If you want each item in the outline to be a seperate tiddler, you do >>> need to decide if you have an independent title or an automatically >>> generated one behind the scenes. >>> >>> I think this needs more work to define the best way to tackle outlining. >>> Your notes are a start. >>> >>> regards >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 2:52:26 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> could you please enlighten me on the game changer feature or concept >>>>> of Dynalist?? >>>>> >>>> >>>> For me, the basic advantage of an outliner program (Dynalist, >>>> Workflowy, Roam) is the writing experience. Everything is in bullet >>>> points. >>>> Hit enter to start a new line, hit tab to indent, and when you hit enter >>>> for a new line, your next line is also indented to that level, etc. And by >>>> dragging the bullets you can rearrange the order and indenting of any >>>> line. >>>> So it is a really great way to write, and to order and reorganize one's >>>> thoughts on a topic. Very freeing compared to writing in TiddlyWiki: in >>>> TiddlyWiki, if you use the unordered list, you need to do shift+8 to add * >>>> or ** or *** every new line, or write loosely, use a toolbar button to add >>>> one * for every line, and manually add the extra levels of * for the lines >>>> that need it. If you don't use bulleted lists, new paragraphs require two >>>> newlines, not one, and indenting requires other actions that take one away >>>> from typing (wrapping in a span class, or using : , which only affects the >>>> first line, etc). And these delays really add up. >>>> >>>> Another advantage of outliners is that if you have a pro account you >>>> can drag images right into it, and copy the link to insert them wherever >>>> you want. Another is that you can add tags to each line and do searches >>>> for >>>> tags across multiple outliner documents. >>>> >>>> There was a way, probably still exists, to replicate the 'ordered list >>>> / enter for new line / tab for indent' experience in TiddlyWiki, but the >>>> cost was too high for me - it meant losing access to the editortoolbar. I >>>> think it also required a different tiddler type, and if I remember, there >>>> were other drawbacks as well associated with that aspect. If there were a >>>> way to do enter-and-tab without such a huge cost, I would use TiddlyWiki >>>> for almost everything, and would not feel much pressure to switch between >>>> Tiddlywiki and outliners. Although Roam....very enticing once they get >>>> their defects weeded out. >>>> >>>> I hope that answers your question about the game changer features. >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3eb2a137-e447-475e-b8c2-96a03963581a%40googlegroups.com.
