hahaha after spending over an hour trying to figure out, unsuccessfully, how to reassign a keyboard key to insert *, I looked over at the numberpad and saw a * key.
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 10:24:19 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote: > > Thanks Tony for your thoughts. I did look at the Code Mirror plugin, but > unfortunately I think that may be beyond me. There is only so much learning > curve I can take at a time. > > I am thinking of assigning * a key on my keyboard so I don't have to > shift. That might be enough. > > On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: >> >> David, >> >> It handles indents but not the wikitext bullets, it allows the tab key, >> in indent in further and further, but as its not wikitext it renders >> without the tabs. Perhaps we can get tabs accepted by the wiki text parser >> to be honored during rendering including the forced new line. >> >> Your you information I often find staring a line with ";" and ":" >> simi-colon heading, and colon indented helpful. I am keen to add a "." >> period that makes a paragraph (discussed elsewhere). >> >> I note it seems to store tab characters (not yet confirmed) so I would >> not be surprised if we can use a macro or parsing to turn it into a >> bulleted list. Given it accepts tabs, perhaps a keyboard macro that inserts >> a tab and an * at the beginning of the text would help? >> >> I am keen to maximise the ease of entry and organising within wiki text. >> You can follow a leading character such as semi-colon with a .classname >> eg >> ;.classname >> to apply css >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 12:17:08 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tony >>> >>> I will look at the Code Mirror plugin. I don't need all the >>> functionality of an outliner, such as dragging points to reorder them. and >>> I don't need each new line to be a tiddler. I just need to be able for each >>> new line to start with a * and indenting to change the * to **, ***, etc. >>> >>> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 9:37:04 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: >>>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> It's not the full story but the codeMirror plugin handles tabs and new >>>> lines well. I use it when writing macros to keep them clear and well >>>> structured. >>>> >>>> I have always being a fan of easy to use outliners. They provide a >>>> hierarchical structure. But tiddlywiki can go beyond hierarchical. >>>> >>>> My feeling is that tiddlywiki has more than the possibility to act as >>>> an outliner, in fact I think the Code Mirror or Visual editor can help >>>> within a single tiddler. >>>> >>>> If you want each item in the outline to be a seperate tiddler, you do >>>> need to decide if you have an independent title or an automatically >>>> generated one behind the scenes. >>>> >>>> I think this needs more work to define the best way to tackle >>>> outlining. Your notes are a start. >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 2:52:26 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> could you please enlighten me on the game changer feature or concept >>>>>> of Dynalist?? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For me, the basic advantage of an outliner program (Dynalist, >>>>> Workflowy, Roam) is the writing experience. Everything is in bullet >>>>> points. >>>>> Hit enter to start a new line, hit tab to indent, and when you hit enter >>>>> for a new line, your next line is also indented to that level, etc. And >>>>> by >>>>> dragging the bullets you can rearrange the order and indenting of any >>>>> line. >>>>> So it is a really great way to write, and to order and reorganize one's >>>>> thoughts on a topic. Very freeing compared to writing in TiddlyWiki: in >>>>> TiddlyWiki, if you use the unordered list, you need to do shift+8 to add >>>>> * >>>>> or ** or *** every new line, or write loosely, use a toolbar button to >>>>> add >>>>> one * for every line, and manually add the extra levels of * for the >>>>> lines >>>>> that need it. If you don't use bulleted lists, new paragraphs require two >>>>> newlines, not one, and indenting requires other actions that take one >>>>> away >>>>> from typing (wrapping in a span class, or using : , which only affects >>>>> the >>>>> first line, etc). And these delays really add up. >>>>> >>>>> Another advantage of outliners is that if you have a pro account you >>>>> can drag images right into it, and copy the link to insert them wherever >>>>> you want. Another is that you can add tags to each line and do searches >>>>> for >>>>> tags across multiple outliner documents. >>>>> >>>>> There was a way, probably still exists, to replicate the 'ordered list >>>>> / enter for new line / tab for indent' experience in TiddlyWiki, but the >>>>> cost was too high for me - it meant losing access to the editortoolbar. I >>>>> think it also required a different tiddler type, and if I remember, there >>>>> were other drawbacks as well associated with that aspect. If there were a >>>>> way to do enter-and-tab without such a huge cost, I would use TiddlyWiki >>>>> for almost everything, and would not feel much pressure to switch between >>>>> Tiddlywiki and outliners. Although Roam....very enticing once they get >>>>> their defects weeded out. >>>>> >>>>> I hope that answers your question about the game changer features. >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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