Hi Tony I will look at the Code Mirror plugin. I don't need all the functionality of an outliner, such as dragging points to reorder them. and I don't need each new line to be a tiddler. I just need to be able for each new line to start with a * and indenting to change the * to **, ***, etc.
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 9:37:04 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: > > David, > > It's not the full story but the codeMirror plugin handles tabs and new > lines well. I use it when writing macros to keep them clear and well > structured. > > I have always being a fan of easy to use outliners. They provide a > hierarchical structure. But tiddlywiki can go beyond hierarchical. > > My feeling is that tiddlywiki has more than the possibility to act as an > outliner, in fact I think the Code Mirror or Visual editor can help within > a single tiddler. > > If you want each item in the outline to be a seperate tiddler, you do need > to decide if you have an independent title or an automatically generated > one behind the scenes. > > I think this needs more work to define the best way to tackle outlining. > Your notes are a start. > > regards > Tony > > > On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 2:52:26 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: >> >> >> >>> could you please enlighten me on the game changer feature or concept of >>> Dynalist?? >>> >> >> For me, the basic advantage of an outliner program (Dynalist, Workflowy, >> Roam) is the writing experience. Everything is in bullet points. Hit enter >> to start a new line, hit tab to indent, and when you hit enter for a new >> line, your next line is also indented to that level, etc. And by dragging >> the bullets you can rearrange the order and indenting of any line. So it is >> a really great way to write, and to order and reorganize one's thoughts on >> a topic. Very freeing compared to writing in TiddlyWiki: in TiddlyWiki, if >> you use the unordered list, you need to do shift+8 to add * or ** or *** >> every new line, or write loosely, use a toolbar button to add one * for >> every line, and manually add the extra levels of * for the lines that need >> it. If you don't use bulleted lists, new paragraphs require two newlines, >> not one, and indenting requires other actions that take one away from >> typing (wrapping in a span class, or using : , which only affects the first >> line, etc). And these delays really add up. >> >> Another advantage of outliners is that if you have a pro account you can >> drag images right into it, and copy the link to insert them wherever you >> want. Another is that you can add tags to each line and do searches for >> tags across multiple outliner documents. >> >> There was a way, probably still exists, to replicate the 'ordered list / >> enter for new line / tab for indent' experience in TiddlyWiki, but the cost >> was too high for me - it meant losing access to the editortoolbar. I think >> it also required a different tiddler type, and if I remember, there were >> other drawbacks as well associated with that aspect. If there were a way to >> do enter-and-tab without such a huge cost, I would use TiddlyWiki for >> almost everything, and would not feel much pressure to switch between >> Tiddlywiki and outliners. Although Roam....very enticing once they get >> their defects weeded out. >> >> I hope that answers your question about the game changer features. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ae1f5ec1-68e7-4fde-bee4-63417756e379%40googlegroups.com.
