Ciao Mohammad The one issue that I think is central is "detection". The real issue is whether the virus has penetrated society so far it is unstoppable.
It is still unclear. But Italy & Iran are suffering badly from trying to contain it. Both are acting responsibly with huge social & economic consequences. The next few weeks will show the situation better. IMO it is much better a society continues to be able to work if it can and put its resources into looking after the seriously ill, not policing the healthy. Thoughts TT On Thursday, 5 March 2020 14:17:35 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote: > > Hi Josiah, > Very bad news. Here in Tehran schools and universities are closed and > will remain closed for next few weeks! > Everywhere is closed or semi-closed! There is shortage for masks, gloves, > and disinfectants. > This is a disaster! > > Have you read the book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Darkness > ? > Strangely the novel explains a similar story like coronavisus in Wuhan > China. > > The Wikipedia page described the virus name was Gorki-400 where in the > reprint in 1989 changed to Wuhan-400. > > > --Mohammad > > On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 4:21:54 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> Ciao Gloom, Devil's Plaintiff, >> >> As the coronavirus takes grip in Italy, now, in my immediate area... >> >> Issues locally are ... >> >> -- Death rate in Italy are looking High (higher than Iran) mainly because >> people live very long in Italy; and birth rate is low... result is Higher >> mortality in vulnerable aged populations. >> >> -- All schools are closed to the middle of month. >> >> -- Many towns in Lombardy are on lock-down under virtual martial law. >> Economically that is a disaster as the North is the centre of net >> production Italy. >> >> -- The virus is fulminate, but largely silent, for most infected recover >> without a beep. Detection is a cornerstone that is likely already >> uncontrolled (not sure). >> >> Some broader issue are ... >> >> -- Is Italy just detecting it better than the rest of Western Europe? >> Italy started screening & sequestration early. >> >> -- Is the virus so dispersed yet it is unstoppable? Detection is >> difficult because you can't test everyone. Most people *don't display >> marked symptoms*. >> >> -- Would it be better to switch from sequestration resourcing to >> palliative care? Let the society continue economic activity regardless? >> >> I'd say the issue with your alternative advocacy is simply exposure, >> reach. One needs more than a TW. One needs a way to get it read. >> >> Best wishes >> TT >> >> >> >> On Sunday, 1 March 2020 07:10:13 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote: >>> >>> I shall play advocatus diaboli >>> >>> >>>> Definitely true. BUT our commune in Italy delivered in the postbox a >>>> pamphlet yesterday about precautions with the virus. >>>> >>> >>> TW could be delivered via USB external memory devices or CD/DVD-- in >>> this country, more of a change someone paying attention to such than a >>> pamphlet which would be ignored like junk mail. >>> >>> >>>> So WHAT would be the added value of TW unless thousands can find it on >>>> quick search? >>>> >>> >>> Internet may not always be available-- especially if unrest is >>> involved-- the plug on the Internet may get pulled-- Iran, Kashmir, China, >>> Arab Spring... >>> >>> and Internet search results can lead to the wrong sources... >>> >>> and would ppl select sources from social media and pop culture icons >>> over authoritative sources... I don't know if you noticed the growing >>> distrust in instittutions by the general public? >>> >>> and a TW for CoV could be easily be passed around with or without the >>> Internet >>> >>> I could see its relevance IF an EXPERT in coronaviris made a TW about >>>> it. As a public announcement system it seems a dead duck. >>>> >>> >>> see point above-- you may be fooling yourself if you think an expert >>> would make ppl listen more-- experts would just be needed initiately to >>> ensure the info is accurate but social engineering would be needed to >>> spread it-- pop cultrure icons and outlets, social media so ppl will spread >>> it for you just like their spreading the virus-- a new approach to goin >>> viral >>> >>> perhaps reverse psychiatry-- the government don't want you to read it-- >>> everyone will read it then : P >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ede154dc-0627-46c4-a514-1a364c6f7756%40googlegroups.com.
