*Thanks Peter, very helpful. See my comments in bold*

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:51 AM 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> here is my 2 cents worth, as a newbie.
>
> *Activity:*
> *In order to be able to do the other activities below, click this link to
> open this tiddler: Using tiddlers*
> *Yay! Now you are not in a tab but in the actual 'Using tiddlers' tiddler.*
>
> After clicking on the link the tid "Using tiddlers" comes up. A newbie
> will then wonder how to get back to the "Welcome to Stroll" tid. The person
> will look for a "back" button as in a "conventional" app, not realising one
> just needs to scroll down.
> This is the kind of thing (though not only) that sent me running away from
> TW when I sniffed at it 5 years ago.
>

*I will make that clearer, thanks!*

>
> On the "Using tiddlers" tid the "Activity" box (my 1st para above) telling
> people to open "Using tiddlers" also occurs: that does not make sense.
>

*I will write something to warn users that the text will be repeated.
Having the text NOT appear when it is the same tiddler will also not make
sense to a new user.*

>
> ---
> *Activity:*
> *In the sidebar, open the tab with the big pink eyeball (). Click on the
> checkboxes there to see how they change the appearance of the link at the
> bottom of this tiddler.*
>
> I did not see anything change to the link when checking various check
> boxes.
>

*Okay I will check this. Maybe in updating the tutorial I changed something
and didn't update this*

>
> ---
> *Now close this tiddler to return to the Stroll through Stroll tutorial.*
>
> When that tiddler is closed, the only one left open is the one with your
> name/my name. There is no tid open anymore with the column on the left. The
> Welcome or Stroll though Stroll can be picked up from the sidebar's Recent
> tab, but that's not obvious for a newbie.
>

*I will check this, thanks*

>
> A tutorial, esp. one for a tool like TW/Stroll, needs to be a "taking by
> the hand and show you" kind of experience. Increasing the user base has
> been a big topic of late: one of the reasons it is not any bigger is
> because of the big difference with "conventional" apps, TW is quite
> confusing at 1st.
>

*That is precisely why I am asking for feedback. This tutorial is WAY more
"taking by the hand and show you" than other TW tutorials, but there are
always issues to iron out.*

>
> ---
> Typo: *To add all of Stroll to your own TiddlyWiki, drag the stroll tag
> pill linto ……*
>
> linto >> into
>

*Good catch, thanks!*

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> 2 May 2020, 22:19 by [email protected]:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I finally got around to updating Stroll (replacement for my TiddlyBlink).
> I think it is just about ready. Here is the link:
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.experiment.html
>
> Play with it until you find its flaws. Be merciless. Make it bleed. Then
> let me know what needs bandaging or amputating. You have one week.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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