Hi, I think it would be possible to give the TW default (i)nfo section more love. At the moment, it is hidden by default. So users need apps like stroll or others to find out, that the whole backlinking mechanism has always been there. Just 1 click away.
Many users have to go a long way, and hack the ViewTemplate to add something, that has always been there. Just 1 click away. IMO it would be easy to add a little checkbox to the tiddler info area tabs, which allow them to add the backlinks info at the end of the tiddler ViewTemplate. The same should be true for most other tabs in the info section. If someone wants to see the "tagging" info, they should get a "TagglyTagging like" experience if they need it (plugin). I also think, that the info button should be part of the EditTemplate. Same thing here. Most elements of the editor can be hidden behind it. Checkboxes allow them to be part of the EditTemplate. So it should be easy to remove the "type-field" selector and the "add fields" elements. It would also eliminate type field dropdown and opens up much more space to add docs to the selections. Even the tag-editor and the title field can be removed, except, if the tiddler is named New Tiddler or something similar. With a mechanism like this, plugins can add "reference / backlinking" output into the tiddler info section OR at the end of the xxTemplate, and the user can decide, if and when they want to see this info. Similar to this example: https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/slant-01/#04-clicking-tag-opens-tagmap ... If you *click a tag*, it will open something that I called "Tag Map". It is part of the info section, but it could also be part of the ViewTemplate. ... With a little bit of tinkering, it can look like TagglyTagging or something else, that a user may need. If the (i)nfo button would be part of the default UI, I'm pretty sure users will click it, because it is something special and they want to know, what's behind it. I'm sure, the "more" chevron is completely ignored by most users. At the moment the Info button is hidden. The main argument is: We don't want to "clutter" the default UI. .. But as it turns out, especially the EditTemplate is way too cluttered. So let's add an info button and remove the rest, that is not needed for new users. I think we can pretty easily get an edit-UI, that Edgaras envisioned at: TW revamp <https://www.figma.com/proto/TCQj1L5v85AEB0RUqDMA8a/TiddliWiki-revamp?node-id=481%3A565&viewport=662%2C1023%2C0.22083882987499237&scaling=scale-down-width> linked in the OT. Creating a simplified "starter UI", that has the full power backed into, is doable. Plus some intro videos similar to this one <https://youtu.be/rhYgfbs_rCA?t=78>, I think we can go a long way. There is a PR at GitHub <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4460> and a demo wiki at tiddlyspot: http://4460.tiddlyspot.com Just some thoughts. have fun! Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6b509e83-03ac-494e-b306-a9249b2708a7%40googlegroups.com.

