On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 3:09:20 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > @Ognsya thanks for the feedback, comments below: > > >> - I wonder if an abandoned empty tiddler should be removed/deleted >> automatically? Would make it cleaner. >> >> Hitting "escape" in an empty tiddler already deletes it. Beyond that I > prefer to err on the side of not deleting data, too much room for > accidents. >
I understand. It's definitely not priority. It would just be a way to give non-keyboard users the same flexibility as keyboard users (allowing the user to change their mind after starting a new tiddler, but before writing anything). Currently you have ESC delete the tiddler only if it's empty (to make sure you're not deleting important stuff). So would be a similar check, but done once focus leaves the text field. > >> - There is no way to drag a child left (equivalent of SHIFT-TAB). In >> order to do that via dragging, one needs to move it elsewhere, then bring >> it back. >> >> There is, you need to drag it to the left and below its siblings. Which > is not the exact same behaviour as shift+tab granted, but what one > intuitively expects when dragging and dropping. A literal equivalent to tab > and shift-tab (indent and unindent) would need to be via the context menu. > You're right. Sorry for that. What I suggested makes no sense, unless in very specific use cases. > > >> >> - The drag handle could be more noticeable. I suggest a subtle >> vertical handle, to the left of the tiddler (and with its height). It >> could >> be even hidden until user hovers over the tiddler. >> >> Agreed that the styling on the handle needs to change, especially as it > is identical to a regular unordered list. I welcome any design suggestions > that could be implemented either via css or free svg icons. The current > bullet is pure css/html. > Cool. I'll suggest something in my mock-ups. Having a common universal handle also opens up the possibility for tiddlers of other types in a Stream (besides bullets), such as plain paragraph ones. I pasted in the end of this email examples from Wordpress and Notion (in both, I have the mouse on the handle - it doesn't show in the screenshot). >> - The context menu for a tiddler is great. I'd suggest having it show >> on hover of the aforementioned handle (after a short delay), instead of >> on >> Right-Click >> >> I would consider that a usability regression, elements popping up close > to user content on hover often get in the way. I do agree though that the > drag handle needs some kind of on hover affordance that it has other > functionality to explore. > Yes, that's what I meant - some hover options for the handle (such as changing the tiddler's type, for example). > > >> Some suggestions for making editing feel more fluid and modern: >> > > I appreciate all of these thoughts but the reality is that in order to be > implemented properly, they would require a WYSIWYG editor for wiki text, > which does not exist and is a far more significant and complex undertaking > than this plugin. If such an editor is created, it can easily be utilized > in this plugin. > I was thinking about this visual BJtools editor: http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#VisualEditorDemo Is there any reason it can't be used? > For your other ideas regarding TW UI, I suggest starting a new thread. It > may help to differentiate between ideas for a hard fork or rewrite of > TiddlyWiki, and improvements to the current product. The former offers more > flexibility but also considerably more effort to realize (if at all), > whereas the latter will require design suggestions to be informed by and > accompanied by a willingness to learn and understand the basic architecture > of TW in order to be truly useful. If in doubt, just ask. > Sure, makes sense! Once I have the mockups I'll share them in a new post. Thanks! > Regards, > Saq > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4f541305-20d9-4cb7-831e-3a3a923dc5b5%40googlegroups.com.
