Fol;ks, I can't put the full solution together yet, insufficient time for off topic work, however I have the components to extract the contents of any arbitrary html tags. Not known by too many is that html with all its <div> </div> <section></section> etc.. is you can use any name and using css give it many of the qualities from almost any other html tag. With a little wikitext management and regex you can subsequently extract these and their content from any tiddler containing them, even post render with additional tricks.
With the customise project and Mario and TT this can be turned into a custom wiki text also. My point is some nice solutions will be along soon to handle managing content into excerpts/quoted passages, references and footnotes and more. Regards Tones On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 06:05:16 UTC+11 springer wrote: > Manish, > > I gave a more specific answer over in your thread about books and quotes > management, since it seems that thread is a better home for detailed > discussion of how to handle excerpts/quoted passages. > > I'll do a bit more, over at that thread, to clarify what the structure > looks like, and why... > > Here's that thread: > https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Zewezsh2hcU/m/8SOGWrN1AgAJ > > -Springer > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:11:33 AM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Dear Springer >> Thank you for your detailed response. I read about the Dynamic Table >> feature and am learning to incorporate it. >> >> If I can re-frame my predicament: Say, I read 50 books in a year. Now, I >> have 50 tiddlers in which the notes, bullet points and 2-3 quotes/excerpts >> are included in each. >> Is it possible for me view all the 100-150 quotes in one tiddler? >> >> The code which I'm using for the quotes within the tiddler is: >> <<<.tc-big-quote >> [[Quotes]] <br> >> It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. But perhaps there >> is a key. That key is National Interest >> >> <<<Churchill >> >> When I search 'quotes', what i get is a list of 50 Book title tiddlers >> which isnt very helpful. It's also awkward to tag every tiddler with >> 'Quotes' >> >> >> Would be grateful for your comments. >> >> Regards >> Manish >> >> >> On Sunday, 29 November, 2020 at 1:46:18 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: >> >>> Manish, there are different ways to think about organizing quotes. >>> >>> If I had been working in Tiddlywiki all along, I'd probably set up each >>> excerpt as its own tiddler, putting only the actual excerpt in the body of >>> the tiddler and using fields for various citation details such as author, >>> title, page, meta-title (journal or enclosing book), notes. I'd tag each >>> one with "excerpt" and use an excerpt-specific template to make each >>> excerpt display with the relevant fields as desired. Then I would use a >>> dynamic table for any desired "slice" of tiddlers (filtered based on a >>> certain source, or a certain author, or with a certain word or keyword, >>> whatever). If you're starting fresh with TiddlyWiki, I recommend this >>> granular approach. A tiddler should generally be the smallest informational >>> unit that is of interest to you and/or your audience. >>> >>> In my own case, I had already developed (starting in the 1990s) a >>> full-fledged database of research- and teaching-related excerpts using the >>> FileMaker database app (which was my software brain prior to TiddlyWiki, >>> and still handles most of my document-generation tasks). And my main use >>> for excerpts in TiddlyWiki was to organize the excerpts for each particular >>> reading, for access during classroom discussion. (It was easy for me to get >>> FileMaker to "dress" the excerpts up with various bits of syntax and bundle >>> them in sets based on my usual teaching needs. At the time (duing TW >>> Classic times) it was easier to copy and paste large sets; I didn't know >>> how to import a whole array.) So, I batch-generated an excerpt set for each >>> class session, using a combination of <$details> formatting (using >>> telmiger's plugin, referenced earlier in this thread) and >>> quotation-graphics css. The result, for each chapter or article, is a >>> neat-looking "accordion" array of quotes, where the summary for each >>> excerpt includes a "teaser" phrase and page number, and the drop-down >>> allows us to expand passages of interest as needed during discussion. You >>> can hit "edit" within an excerpt-oriented tiddler to see what the guts look >>> like: >>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#Arisotle%201%20excerpts >>> >>> ... But again, the reason I didn't take a "granular" approach (one tiddler >>> per excerpt) is idiosyncratic, and I don't recommend emulating this aspect >>> of my site organization! >>> >>> I believe some other folks here have actually developed a full-fledged >>> biblio tool for tiddlywiki. In particular, if you haven't seen it yet, >>> check out Mohammad's Refnotes plugin: https://kookma.github.io/Refnotes/ >>> >>> -Springer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Springer >>>> I have no coding knowledge and have been exploring a way to collate >>>> quotes and excerpts. >>>> Would it be possible to educate me on the way you have listed the >>>> Excerpts in your tiddlywiki. Or could you please direct me to some links >>>> that explain the process. >>>> Thanks a ton >>>> >>>> Manish >>>> >>>> On Friday, 27 November, 2020 at 1:27:15 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it >>>>> can be molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 >>>>> projects >>>>> for different purposes, with different plugin sets and other >>>>> customizations >>>>> suited to the purposes of each project. >>>>> >>>>> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are: >>>>> >>>>> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin, for virtually >>>>> every important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture >>>>> on any slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this >>>>> purpose, and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more >>>>> powerful. I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on >>>>> the fields that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you >>>>> can >>>>> build a dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main >>>>> workhorse use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific >>>>> css, so that there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler >>>>> we're >>>>> looking at. (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a >>>>> look >>>>> and feel that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a definition >>>>> tiddler or a tiddler focused on excerpts from the readings, etc.) >>>>> >>>>> (2) Liberally employ a "details" GUI for things that I don't want to >>>>> see (or don't want to show to students) unless/until it's time to dig in >>>>> deeper. I use telmiger's details plugin, because it's super-flexible >>>>> about >>>>> the contents within the details area (allows any formatting or markup you >>>>> can think of within the hidden "pocket" area). But to put ordinary text >>>>> elaboration into a details "pocket," Shiraz's details function is simple >>>>> and great too. >>>>> >>>>> If you'd like to poke around on one of my teaching sites, feel free to >>>>> visit this link: >>>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#TiddlyWiki >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy the adventure of discovering the possibilities! >>>>> >>>>> -Springer >>>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>> >>>>>> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to >>>>>> cope with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a >>>>>> dynamic table of content using keywords. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, >>>>>> advices, for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? >>>>>> What >>>>>> plugins and/or custom features do you use ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new >>>>>> notes in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to >>>>>> discover new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for every answer. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/12d29774-b960-4841-b044-7a7c115f7087n%40googlegroups.com.
