Springer, Alvin.

Now days I only access my legacy TWC files via TiddlyDesktop, But TW5 is 
fine to host on a standard php server with tw-receiver. I believe the 
store.php used to work with TWC and
 I believe this has being discussed in 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywikiclassic.

Otherwise its easy to use Timimi from my desktop on a webdisk or that is 
synchronised.

Tones

Tones
On Friday, 4 December 2020 at 13:05:04 UTC+11 springer wrote:

> Alvin,
>
> I agree that losing TiddlySpot is a pain for anyone who really needs TW 
> projects to be both spontaneously edited (from anywhere) and instantly 
> available via a potentially-public url.
>
> GitHub is the only solution I've found that does meet these conditions 
> (without being a server administrator or being a coding expert). 
>
> The good news: As soon as you successfully set up GitHub once (configuring 
> the right authentication for saving), adding additional tiddlywiki files in 
> the same "repo" (repository) is VERY easy. Unlike tiddlyspot, you can have 
> even GitHub use the same password authentication handshake for each of your 
> five wikis. As with tiddlyspot, once the password is set up on a given 
> computer-browser system (and especially if you configure auto-save), future 
> visits are just smooth as can be. 
>
> I also have domain names and access to server space, but have not yet 
> found a way to use these resources to set up TW5 projects so that they are 
> editable over https: browser access. In theory, GitHub can be a 
> ventriloquist and allow your files to be accessed by way of your custom 
> domain name's url system. So far, my attempts to follow directions to set 
> that up have stumbled. So I can't confirm that it's easy, but I'm 
> determined to return to the question when I have another chunk of 
> troubleshooting time on my hands. In the meantime, I'm finding the 
> github.com urls fairly easy to work with. 
>
> -Springer
>
> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:36:56 PM UTC-5 Alvin wrote:
>
>> Thank you to everybody that has replied.
>>
>> I have about five tiddlyspot files, and it's not clear to me if I can use 
>> GitHub for all of them.
>>
>> I have a little experience with Dropbox, enough that I closed my account 
>> less than a week after I created it. So I don't want to use Dropbox.
>>
>> I have a domain or two, and I can create subdomains, so I'd like to do 
>> that.
>>
>> Again, my tiddlyspot files are ClassicTW, and I want to keep them 
>> password protected. A step-by-step how to port them is what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I'm sure I'm not the only person looking for this. It's are real payne in 
>> the arse not being able to update my Tiddlyspot files.
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:56:26 AM UTC-6 springer wrote:
>>
>>> TiddlySpot was absolutely the lowest bar-to-entry for 
>>> instant-gratification create-edit-save-publish work in TiddlyWiki. Having 
>>> something like it is essential to attracting new users with an interest in 
>>> public-facing instant-edit projects.
>>>
>>> Alvin: For those like you who already know they love tiddlywiki and love 
>>> the tiddlyspot convenience, I do recommend the GitHub saver. It's 
>>> effectively the same workflow experience as TiddlySpot... at least it's 
>>> comparable *AFTER* the arduous process (at least, it was arduous for me) of 
>>> getting the repository set up and properly cleared for saving from the 
>>> browser. Mohammad's walkthrough tutorial is very helpful (and it seems like 
>>> the glitch around GitHub email verification, which hobbled my own 
>>> experience, was idiosyncratic).
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:57:31 AM UTC-5 Ste wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to edit my response, now I've actually read the thread carefully, 
>>>> oops, I'm slightly off track in my reply...I'm just looking at individual 
>>>> hosting.  I'd happily chuck some cash somebody's way for continued 
>>>> tiddlyspot workingness.  I'm guessing no one has heard anything regarding 
>>>> the future of the site?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 10:48:32 UTC Ste wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just 
>>>>> edit this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is 
>>>>> broken :(
>>>>> I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
>>>>> So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
>>>>> year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting from 
>>>>> https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving from 
>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
>>>>> haven't committed to anything yet....Going to boot up my pi and check I 
>>>>> manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> command line.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Ste
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck 
>>>>>> posting at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without 
>>>>>> chocolate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, 
>>>>>> preferably one that charges per space used rather than 
>>>>>> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
>>>>>> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
>>>>>> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. 
>>>>>> When 
>>>>>> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that 
>>>>>> charge 
>>>>>> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
>>>>>> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
>>>>>> hacked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the 
>>>>>> tiddlytoolmap seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space 
>>>>>> was 
>>>>>> under one gig, then there's at least one website offering services at 
>>>>>> $6/month plus probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much 
>>>>>> a site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
>>>>>> conversations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
>>>>>>> COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I 
>>>>>>> offered 
>>>>>>> chocolate for an answer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon 
>>>>>>>> and Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so 
>>>>>>>> far 
>>>>>>>> is crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
>>>>>>>> TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it 
>>>>>>>> if 
>>>>>>>> anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also 
>>>>>>>> need to 
>>>>>>>> know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail 
>>>>>>>> dot com) about my offer, please do so directly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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