Hi Mark

> Fixed skplugins. I've added URL counting to my working dashboard.

Thanks, that's great.

> My thought about older items is that a single link to an older item could be 
> the starting point for someone to make something amazing. Like various 
> television reboots that are more interesting than the original, but benefit 
> from the starting point. 

Yes that's very true. Perhaps we should agree a tag for this kind of situation.

> It's good to know I don't need to stress so much about descriptions.
> 
> Which reminds me -- will there be a search engine at some point? If not, than 
> descriptions are somewhat moot.

Yes! I'll do a little JavaScript search function as soon as I get a chance, 
unless anyone beats me to it...

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 12:09:39 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>> Permalink seems to be available on skplugins, but the other two are indeed 
>> too old for them. And indeed are so old that we probably shouldn’t be 
>> promoting the information they contain too hard.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 24 Mar 2021, at 17:03, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> I've gone through and removed or disambiguated  duplicates except for these 
>>> older pages where it's not possible to permalink (AFAIK) :
>>> 
>>> http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/ 3  
>>> http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ 4  
>>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/ 5  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:29:46 AM UTC-7 Mark S. wrote:
>>>> Note that some links that have the same landing page actually have 
>>>> different descriptions and Tags. This is usually because the page was made 
>>>> before permalinks were available.
>>>> 
>>>> Older TW's didn't have the permalink button, but did they still have 
>>>> permalinks? Is their some backward compatible code that could generate 
>>>> them?
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a handy filter that would detect duplicate url's without nesting?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:53:20 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> One thing I’m noticing is that you have multiple $:/tags/Link entries 
>>>>> pointing to the same URL. It doesn’t break the system or anything, but 
>>>>> perhaps it would make more sense for the scraper to merge multiple 
>>>>> entries with the same URL from the same contributor. We would merge the 
>>>>> tags, and concatenate the descriptions. Alternately, I could make you a 
>>>>> script that you could paste into the JS console to do that merging on 
>>>>> your original bookmarks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2021, at 13:40, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saq's page is very nice, but he didn't extract the url or apply tags, so 
>>>>>> it's actually harder to use than the source MD.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My methodology. I use an advanced text editor and split the original 
>>>>>> text into fields with pipes. 
>>>>>> I paste the text into an "incoming" tiddler.
>>>>>> I've written a tiddler that will split the incoming items, apply 
>>>>>> specified tags, populate the url field, and add a unique identifier to 
>>>>>> avoid tiddler name collisions.
>>>>>> Then I use a dashboard tiddler to browse the new entries. This makes it 
>>>>>> easier to browse the new entries, change tags, long text, and url. I can 
>>>>>> also click on a link to check if the link is working. Often I would 
>>>>>> tweak the link to use the exact permalink. Tiddlers can then be approved 
>>>>>> or marked as a problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is done in batches by sub-topics to help reduce errors. Rinse. 
>>>>>> Repeat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of the various steps, it is checking the link that is slowest -- having 
>>>>>> to look back and forth, and often authors "hide" the bit you want.  I 
>>>>>> checked each link for the first 218 submissions. After that I decided to 
>>>>>> mark items for review and come back and double-check links later, like 
>>>>>> when I was really bored. Of the next 50 I added, ONE had a missing url 
>>>>>> problem. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 3:19:19 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Saq Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> @Birthe and @Mohammad:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is the same content but should be a lot less resource intensive 
>>>>>>>>> to work with:
>>>>>>>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams-tiddlytoolmap2.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Saq! This is much suitable to create the entries for TW link 
>>>>>>>> aggregator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:24:06 AM UTC+1 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mohammad,
>>>>>>>>> Is this the link? 
>>>>>>>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams-tiddlytoolmap.html I do not 
>>>>>>>>> remember the link, but I think Mark S did something similar testing 
>>>>>>>>> notowritey.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> onsdag den 24. marts 2021 kl. 06.05.51 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>  I really appreciate your efforts! I think you should develop a 
>>>>>>>>>> small code to do the conversion from Toolmap to link aggregator! I 
>>>>>>>>>> know Saq converted Toolmaps entry to TW tiddlers sometimes ago, but 
>>>>>>>>>> I forgot the link to that Tiddlywiki!
>>>>>>>>>>  I know this work is tedious and like you I think the current 
>>>>>>>>>> configuration is not the best! Like you I think Jeremy shall remove 
>>>>>>>>>> the restriction on description, ...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:03 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Out of nearly 300 entries, less than 1% had url errors. I was 
>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to do follow-ups with the w3c link validator, but it doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> recognize the site as a document. The standard link-checker 
>>>>>>>>>>> software said everything was ok, but obviously that's wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've removed the entry with a bad url.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I will stop working for now. It's VERY tedious condensing 
>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions to 10 words and supplying tags. Mistakes are bound to 
>>>>>>>>>>> happen. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The last thing I need is to find people upset with my work. If 
>>>>>>>>>>> requested, I can roll back existing entrees.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:25:32 PM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should also be a tag to indicate "highest supported 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version" or something similar if relevant (for plugins, for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> example) and its known. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:09:59 PM UTC-5 David Gifford 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be a way to report dead links. LibreNote, for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example, turns up a 404. Someone is adding links without even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking them first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, giffmex.org has been https:// since early 2020. If those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding links to giffmex.org could convert them from http: to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https:, that would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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