Ah, I believe that techniques like "extracting introductions" might even have developed in tandem with a need I had, way back -- to have a list of "quick definitions" that displayed only the title and first line of each definition-tagged tiddler while dropping any further content of text field (examples, discussion). That technique started back in TW Classic days, though, before we *had* such powerful use of fields!
Mostly I'm leaning toward using fields now for any kind of structured info (such as summary), and transcluding those fields (or using distinctive ViewTemplate sections) as needed. Still, there's something to be said for the writing practice of crafting the first line of an entry to serve as a helpful summary (often revised after writing out the actual content). For certain use-cases, that kind of discipline helps both readers and writers, and of course it's especially compatible with off-the-shelf search behavior. -Springer On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 12:08:24 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: > Hi Springer! > The conditional summary needs a summary field! This is what Soren > explained and is a good approach! > > I mean Extracting Introduction From Tiddlers: > https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Extracting%20Introductions%20From%20Tiddlers > It lets you use the same standard searchbox! > > > Best wishes > Mohammad > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:31 PM springer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mohammad, By "Tobias Beer's method" do you mean the one here: >> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Conditional%20Summary >> ? >> >> That's quite similar to what I use. In fact, I like to create visually >> distinctive ViewTemplate sections for various fields, iff the fields are >> populated. Since I often use tiddlers to hold excerpts, and want to put >> nothing in the text there field apart from the excerpt itself, a >> conditional view template for the "notes" field -- displaying in a >> contrasting box below the text content if and only if I've added notes -- >> was the first such field-based auto-include that I found indispensable. >> >> -Springer >> >> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 7:43:09 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: >> >>> Springer >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:01 AM springer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Soren, >>>> >>>> In your "better indexes" essay you write: >>>> If we do have the full text included in each locus, we may want to >>>> write a summary anyway and store it along with the full text: this way, >>>> we’ll be able to create an outline later and more easily see what parts of >>>> the document we’re hopping between. >>>> >>>> And it reminds me how certain enlightenment texts were printed with a >>>> running outer-margin summary distilling key points (and of course the >>>> cognitive work of spelling out those side-notes is considerable!). For >>>> example, see the side-notes starting at p 49 (pdf-pagination) on this Adam >>>> Smith manuscript: >>>> https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/237/0206-01_Bk.pdf >>>> >>>> For some tiddlywiki projects, I've started to employ a super-condensed >>>> summary field (call it, say, the tldr field) that can be displayed for >>>> certain purposes. Unlike the main body of the tiddler, the tldr is >>>> text-only, maximum of a single sentence. (And if I can't summarize the >>>> tiddler in one sentence, then it needs to be more than one tiddler. ;) ) >>>> Of >>>> course, the fact that tw's standard search interface doesn't peek beyond >>>> title and text field means this solution requires some building-around to >>>> be useful. >>>> >>> >>> I would recommend Tobias Beer method for creating a description, Summary! >>> Also in kookma utility there is a find macro (it has been published >>> separately, see find macro in kookma GitHub page) which can simply extract >>> the summary/description part and you can still use the standard >>> searchbox by Tiddlywiki >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Overall, I'm enjoying your essay and its questions! >>>> >>>> -Springer >>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:17:00 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/ >>>>> >>>>> It's a proposal for a system for indexing large documents based on a >>>>> hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki >>>>> prototype. >>>>> Warning: 6,000+ words. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96e1e06c-130c-447f-812b-a1d5ac0116e2n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96e1e06c-130c-447f-812b-a1d5ac0116e2n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a3d1d21e-1731-42de-ac06-45aed57f617en%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a3d1d21e-1731-42de-ac06-45aed57f617en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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