Good discussion. I have been experimenting with dynamically generating Indexes from individual Tiddlers in my Martial-Arts wiki.
https://silat.chronicles.wiki/#Glossary I had to set that aside for my real-time multiplayer experiments, but hope to get back to UI work soon. Best, Joshua Fontany On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:21:46 AM UTC-7 springer wrote: > Ah, I believe that techniques like "extracting introductions" might even > have developed in tandem with a need I had, way back -- to have a list of > "quick definitions" that displayed only the title and first line of each > definition-tagged tiddler while dropping any further content of text field > (examples, discussion). That technique started back in TW Classic days, > though, before we *had* such powerful use of fields! > > Mostly I'm leaning toward using fields now for any kind of structured info > (such as summary), and transcluding those fields (or using distinctive > ViewTemplate sections) as needed. > > Still, there's something to be said for the writing practice of crafting > the first line of an entry to serve as a helpful summary (often revised > after writing out the actual content). For certain use-cases, that kind of > discipline helps both readers and writers, and of course it's especially > compatible with off-the-shelf search behavior. > > -Springer > On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 12:08:24 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: > >> Hi Springer! >> The conditional summary needs a summary field! This is what Soren >> explained and is a good approach! >> >> I mean Extracting Introduction From Tiddlers: >> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Extracting%20Introductions%20From%20Tiddlers >> It lets you use the same standard searchbox! >> >> >> Best wishes >> Mohammad >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:31 PM springer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mohammad, By "Tobias Beer's method" do you mean the one here: >>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Conditional%20Summary >>> ? >>> >>> That's quite similar to what I use. In fact, I like to create visually >>> distinctive ViewTemplate sections for various fields, iff the fields are >>> populated. Since I often use tiddlers to hold excerpts, and want to put >>> nothing in the text there field apart from the excerpt itself, a >>> conditional view template for the "notes" field -- displaying in a >>> contrasting box below the text content if and only if I've added notes -- >>> was the first such field-based auto-include that I found indispensable. >>> >>> -Springer >>> >>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 7:43:09 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: >>> >>>> Springer >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:01 AM springer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Soren, >>>>> >>>>> In your "better indexes" essay you write: >>>>> If we do have the full text included in each locus, we may want to >>>>> write a summary anyway and store it along with the full text: this way, >>>>> we’ll be able to create an outline later and more easily see what parts >>>>> of >>>>> the document we’re hopping between. >>>>> >>>>> And it reminds me how certain enlightenment texts were printed with a >>>>> running outer-margin summary distilling key points (and of course the >>>>> cognitive work of spelling out those side-notes is considerable!). For >>>>> example, see the side-notes starting at p 49 (pdf-pagination) on this >>>>> Adam >>>>> Smith manuscript: >>>>> https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/237/0206-01_Bk.pdf >>>>> >>>>> For some tiddlywiki projects, I've started to employ a super-condensed >>>>> summary field (call it, say, the tldr field) that can be displayed for >>>>> certain purposes. Unlike the main body of the tiddler, the tldr is >>>>> text-only, maximum of a single sentence. (And if I can't summarize the >>>>> tiddler in one sentence, then it needs to be more than one tiddler. ;) ) >>>>> Of >>>>> course, the fact that tw's standard search interface doesn't peek beyond >>>>> title and text field means this solution requires some building-around to >>>>> be useful. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would recommend Tobias Beer method for creating a description, >>>> Summary! >>>> Also in kookma utility there is a find macro (it has been published >>>> separately, see find macro in kookma GitHub page) which can simply extract >>>> the summary/description part and you can still use the standard >>>> searchbox by Tiddlywiki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Overall, I'm enjoying your essay and its questions! >>>>> >>>>> -Springer >>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:17:00 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/ >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a proposal for a system for indexing large documents based on a >>>>>> hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki >>>>>> prototype. >>>>>> Warning: 6,000+ words. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96e1e06c-130c-447f-812b-a1d5ac0116e2n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96e1e06c-130c-447f-812b-a1d5ac0116e2n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a3d1d21e-1731-42de-ac06-45aed57f617en%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a3d1d21e-1731-42de-ac06-45aed57f617en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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