Mark,

You are right to be worrying about TW!  I'm not as technically-astute
as you seem to be, but I do work with TW all day long as my daily work
diary and todo list.  It's the first page that I open up in the
morning and the last one closed at night.  Recently, I have had some
problems saving tiddlywiki data.

My desktop computer was upgraded to Windows 7 and, TW immediately
stopped saving data. I used the Firefox browser and had few problems,
but with the OS change we seemed to have a problem.

First, I put the jar file in the same directory as my tiddlywiki; no
save.  Second, I tried using Explorer; still no saved data. Opera
saved a few times with the jar file in place, but I just don't like
the interface and the constant suggestions toI upgrade bothered me.
Finally, I settled with  SeaMonkey on Win7; it saves my updates
without the blasted TiddlySaver.jar.  I'm not all that fond of
SeaMonkey in Linux, but in Win7 it looks nice and saves my tiddlywiki
updates.

I do miss some of the Firefox plugins and themes, but, all in all,
SeaMonkey is quicker to load has the most of the features Firefox
users are used. to.  If you upgrade to Win7, you might want to check
out SeaMonkey.

BTW, I agree that Firefox seems as bloated and slow as IE.

Good luck,
Joe

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark S. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Something's been bothering me. Perhaps someone with a grasp of
> Javascript/HTML5/Firefox can offer some solace.
>
> At its core, TW works by violating a prime rule of Javascript: It
> saves itself (and other material) to a local machine. Javascript isn't
> supposed to have this ability, but FireFox and IE have some extra,
> optional abilities that can be exposed by clever programmers. Opera
> and Safari and ? do their saving via a java plugin ... or at least try
> to.
>
> Recently, Microsoft has tried to button up its software. The only way
> to enable saving with TW on recent versions of XP - ? is to
> deliberately undo the security that MS has put into place. At least in
> my case, I had to load a registry setting to even make this possible.
> This kind of manipulation won't be possible in a corporate
> environment.
>
> It appears that Opera may have hit some wall with using the Java jar
> file.
>
> Meanwhile Firefox seems to be becoming more like MS every day -- now
> causing plugins to stop working for no other reason then that the
> version number in the plugin doesn't match the version of FF -- a
> somewhat draconian approach, IMHO.
>
> So I'm wondering if we're going to wake up one day to a new version of
> FF that no longer allows TW to save. Nor IE. Nor alternatives via
> java?  Will the new HTML5 basis guarantee that TW will always have a
> legitimate way to save itself? Or, will there always be some back door
> for saving TW files? Is there some browser that we can count on to
> always run TW?
>
> Thanks for listening,
> Mark
>
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