On this sustainability of TiddlyWiki, I would suggest that web 2.0 and all the interactive web sites and applications, including those that can run against local file systems will continue.
I would not be supprised with the increasing use of the browser as the universal client that many of todays installed desktop applications move into the browser. Why make a program that can only run on version x of OS y when in the browser it can run on any computer. Desktop Java Applications I use such as Freemind can be found in browser or server variations. Google's Chrome OS is a good example of where the technology is migrating towards further integration between the browser and the Operating system. I would suggest this is movement in the same direction as tiddlywiki - not away from it. Yes the relentless security patch process will always threaten browser upgrade success but restricting global access and providing tools to permit specific access to a user approved application/service is increasing. You can also get Read Only Browser Virtual machines or applications that refuse to accept changes, the only avenue left for anything other than trivial surfing is to write changes to files or servers/db's - both are possible with tiddlywiki (or it's variations). The popularity of tiddlywiki and a range of other applications that demand file system access will all-ways provide any browser that accomodates them a marketing advantage. I remember how people spoke of the imminent demise of Novel's Netware operating system for 15 years yet before this came close Netware had transmogrified into Novel's SUSE Linux the same would happen with tiddlywiki and it's ilk. Regards Tony TonyM If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed something. www.tiddlywiki.com On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 06:09, Mark S. <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello FND, > > On Apr 18, 12:57 am, FND <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So I'm wondering if we're going to wake up one day > > > to [browsers] that no longer [allow] TW to save. > > > Nor alternatives via java? > > > > While that possibility exists, it seems highly > > unlikely. Browser vendors, while security-conscious, > > are very keen on not breaking compatibility with > > existing websites or applications. It's worth noting > > that TiddlyWiki will always be readable, so you will > > not lose access to your data. > > Readability is nice, but that renders TW only suitable for kiosk use. > The browser vendors seem to already be shutting the gates. Its > possible that they can not guarantee security while allowing any sort > of script to touch the local hard drive. And nobody wants to be liable > for massive security breaches. > > > While HTML5 provides local storage, that is currently > > is limited to a database within the respective user's > > individual browser - so it's not very portable. > > That's what I suspected. > > > > Too bad they don't have a portable web-server app. > > > That might future-proof TW. > > > > Indeed, that would always remain an option. > > TiddlyWeb already provides this - it's just that we > > don't have a > > I haven't followed TiddlyWeb closely, but once you have a server > running, there don't seem to be as many compelling reasons to choose > TW over some other, industry standard product (e.g. MediaWiki). > > The "lightweight" version of XAMPP weighs in at 100 megs space! > > So far I haven't heard anything to suggest there is nothing to be > worried about. Like, "We'll always have technology X", or "HTML5 has a > save mechanism built in", or "Brand Z browser promises to always allow > saving". > > Thanks, > Mark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<tiddlywiki%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
