this may be off base, but has anyone created a ticket with Mozilla to suggest an file save API? may be worth while to do the same with Chrome. . . Just an idea - maybe voicing a collective opinion with the browser developers, and indentifying a need would go a long way - I am not sure if their is a way to identify aproximately how many users or download stats from tiddlywiki.com but this may be useful also.
Mike On Apr 18, 10:44 pm, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Anthony et al, > > On Apr 18, 5:36 pm, Anthony Muscio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would not be supprised with the increasing use of > > the browser as the universal client that many of > > todays installed desktop applications move into the > > browser. Why make a program that can only run on > > version x of OS y when in the browser it can run on > > any computer. Desktop Java Applications I use such as > > Freemind can be found in browser or server > > variations. > > Just to emphasize what I mentioned before, javascript, unlike java, > was never, ever, meant to access the local hard drive. If there was > going to be any movement towards liberalizing javascript, then we > should see it in API changes. Currently there is no "file()", > "save()", "open()" etc. function as part of the javascript language. > > Ironically, by forcing developers to use backdoor approaches, the > browser vendors are probably making things less secure. A back-door > approach is likely to be more vulnerable to some type of buffer > overrun exploit. By contrast, languages like perl incorporate > "tainting", wherein incoming data can not be used in certain tasks > (like evaluating scripts or opening files), until its been passed > through a verification routine. > > > Google's Chrome OS is a good example of where the > > technology is migrating towards further integration > > between the browser and the Operating system. I would > > suggest this is movement in the same direction as > > tiddlywiki - not away from it. > > But that's just AJAX -- no local data-saving. Local data-saving is > pretty important to have a viable, portable application. > > Once again, TW is already shut-out on corporate systems requiring IE > and administrative rights due to MS tightening its security > environment. Sticking with old browsers only goes so far, because > eventually everyone, including the TW community, will want some new > feature that only comes with a new browser. > > It would be comforting, for instance, if the Firefox community were to > announce an official API to file saving (not a back-door "component"). > If that were to happen, eventually IE and other browsers would > incorporate similar technology in their offerings. > > Mark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.

