Hi Kriss > I disagree with Mans in that TW is nothing like a *normal* office > notebook document. Sure, you could use it to just write text, for > example like a blog, but the power of the wiki is that it is in > essence a "flexible database".
I agree :-) however my words were: "TiddlyWiki ... is comparable to a *normal* office document. It's private untill you share it, by print or as a file. " > Tiddlers and tiddler content can be used and reused in flexible ways. > One can extend the functionality of the wiki with the power of > readymade plugins and self-written scripts. But in essence it remains > a wiki, linking pieces of information together in flexible ways. > (where plugins create or manipulate this 'information' in an > interactive way) Good description. > Tiddlyspace is basically an extention of TW. An added value. (one > that opens up a lot of new options, true) > But there are many options out there in cyberspace that offer > possibilities for sharing and linking, if that is all you are after. Oh yes - they could iframe all sorts of services, and use their personal wiki as a controlcenter/scrapbook/bookmarkscollection. Good idea. > Just like the people in this group use their wikis in many different > ways, so will the students find different uses for TW. The power of TW > is that you can. (it is good practice to give examples of the > extreme diverse usecases) http://giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/ (more or less outdated I'm afraid...) http://featured.tiddlyspace.com/ (themes - not really usercases - ) more..? > To fully understand the power of the toy - and to learn to understand the > inner workings, I think it is important to start from the basics and build > your way up. I'm not sure if I agree, when TiddlyWiki is intended to be showcased as a tool for students.... Yes, - *if* you intend to teach the students how to write/understand css, html, javascript,wikitext and coding in general. I believe that TiddlyWiki lends itself as a nice (realtime)tool for the Information technology teacher, who wants to teach his students "simple" coding. However for "reallife" work we must consider what they are used to be able to do when using a computer and the web. Example project: A service, which I know many students, parents and teachers like to have is the ability to checkout homework online. Easy solution: Teach the teachers how to setup and maintain a TiddlyWiki at http://tiddlyspot.com - and teach them how to create journals and listfilter... Pros: Teachers are in charge - Students experience TiddlyWiki as yest another website, with valuable information. Cons: Students are not engaged in the process and haven't any other use for the wiki, unless they are encouraged to download it - and it has some kind of loadTiddlersPlugin function to get it updated.. TiddlySpace way: Teach the teachers how to setup/register for, and maintain a TiddlySpace. Let students setup/register for a TiddlySpace which includes the teacher's Space, to get everything the teacher publishes into their own spaces. Setup "following" to help them get "News" if they change the "original" tiddler and "reply to this tiddler" to help them discuss homework online... Pros: Students and teachers get involved in the same project... Cons: You'll have to help them understand the terminology used in TiddlySpace, and they must accept that TiddlySpace is a constantly changing framework, which might work very differently in the future... however they might have great influence on how the project TiddlySpace might evolve - via the tiddlyweb community.. Other example projects: *Collective bookmarks (as explained earlier in this thread) *Creation of collaborative/interactive hypertextstories with choices for the reader *Usage of the new services provided by TiddlySpace ie maps, themes, preso presentation, svg-editor etc... *Embed TypeWith.me documents inside tiddlywiki (I do this all the time) Tobias has made a plugin for it: http://typewithme.tiddlyspace.com/ . *Create a searchable knowledgebase with indexes (Toc) for a finished project... * * Please add more... Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
