Thanks for this valuable discussion friends. I am thinking about talking about TW as a standalone tool first, and if I get a positive response, I can either go into some useful plugins, and later on the ideas given by Mans about tiddlyspace interactions. I am also thinking it would be a good idea to give a introduction of various adaptations which teachers can use in everyday life like
1. GTD ( http://www.checkettsweb.com/tw/gtd_tiddlywiki.htm ), 2. a personal website with examples of embedded images, slideshows, youtube. 3. a notice board kind of thing(like Mans referred) 4. a database for contacts ( http://contactsbook.tiddlyspot.com/ ) 5. Tiddlyslidy 6. Tiddlyfolio (for storing passwords or personal data) 7. Grocery lists ( http://listerator.tiddlyspot.com/ ) 8. Notebooks (Notestorm and treeview executive) But it all depends if the school principal gives me permission and time. The schools shall open after the new years celebration. On Dec 30, 8:48 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Kriss > > > I disagree with Mans in that TW is nothing like a *normal* office > > notebook document. Sure, you could use it to just write text, for > > example like a blog, but the power of the wiki is that it is in > > essence a "flexible database". > > I agree :-) however my words were: "TiddlyWiki ... is comparable to a > *normal* office document. It's private untill you share it, by print > or as a file. " > > > Tiddlers and tiddler content can be used and reused in flexible ways. > > One can extend the functionality of the wiki with the power of > > readymade plugins and self-written scripts. But in essence it remains > > a wiki, linking pieces of information together in flexible ways. > > (where plugins create or manipulate this 'information' in an > > interactive way) > > Good description. > > > Tiddlyspace is basically an extention of TW. An added value. (one > > that opens up a lot of new options, true) > > But there are many options out there in cyberspace that offer > > possibilities for sharing and linking, if that is all you are after. > > Oh yes - they could iframe all sorts of services, and use their > personal wiki as a controlcenter/scrapbook/bookmarkscollection. > Good idea. > > > Just like the people in this group use their wikis in many different > > ways, so will the students find different uses for TW. The power of TW > > is that you can. (it is good practice to give examples of the > > extreme diverse usecases) > > http://giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/(more or less outdated I'm > afraid...)http://featured.tiddlyspace.com/(themes - not really usercases - ) > > more..? > > > To fully understand the power of the toy - and to learn to understand the > > inner workings, I think it is important to start from the basics and build > > your way up. > > I'm not sure if I agree, when TiddlyWiki is intended to be showcased > as a tool for students.... > Yes, - *if* you intend to teach the students how to write/understand > css, html, javascript,wikitext and coding in general. > I believe that TiddlyWiki lends itself as a nice (realtime)tool for > the Information technology teacher, who wants to teach his students > "simple" coding. > However for "reallife" work we must consider what they are used to be > able to do when using a computer and the web. > > Example project: > A service, which I know many students, parents and teachers like to > have is the ability to checkout homework online. > Easy solution: > Teach the teachers how to setup and maintain a TiddlyWiki > athttp://tiddlyspot.com- and teach them how to create journals and > listfilter... > Pros: Teachers are in charge - Students experience TiddlyWiki as yest > another website, with valuable information. > Cons: Students are not engaged in the process and haven't any other > use for the wiki, unless they are encouraged to download it - and it > has some kind of loadTiddlersPlugin function to get it updated.. > > TiddlySpace way: > Teach the teachers how to setup/register for, and maintain a > TiddlySpace. > Let students setup/register for a TiddlySpace which includes the > teacher's Space, to get everything the teacher publishes into their > own spaces. Setup "following" to help them get "News" if they change > the "original" tiddler and "reply to this tiddler" to help them > discuss homework online... > Pros: Students and teachers get involved in the same project... > Cons: You'll have to help them understand the terminology used in > TiddlySpace, and they must accept that TiddlySpace is a constantly > changing framework, which might work very differently in the future... > however they might have great influence on how the project TiddlySpace > might evolve - via the tiddlyweb community.. > > Other example projects: > *Collective bookmarks (as explained earlier in this thread) > *Creation of collaborative/interactive hypertextstories with choices > for the reader > *Usage of the new services provided by TiddlySpace ie maps, themes, > preso presentation, svg-editor etc... > *Embed TypeWith.me documents inside tiddlywiki (I do this all the > time) Tobias has made a plugin for it:http://typewithme.tiddlyspace.com/ > . > *Create a searchable knowledgebase with indexes (Toc) for a finished > project... > * > * > Please add more... > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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