Hi Vincent,
tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with versions
1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same
понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
написал:
>
> Yakov,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items was
> possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried locally your
> example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15 over Win7
> x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned here are gone.
> Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix. Thanks again.
>
> Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see below). Maybe
> conflicting with some addons?
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
>> написал:
>>>
>>> TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0
>>>
>>> There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion support.
>>> Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual mode and
>>> flying C buttons, etc.
>>>
>>> Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are displayed. One
>> small detail: second-level list items are displayed as
>>
>> * item text
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> ** item text
>>
>>
> I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong.
>
>
This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because of the
"wrong selection of a list item to edit" issue. Two "*" appear where they
should be.
> (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like Arc does.
>>
>
> I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have the
> positioning issue with local files?
>
>
I meant a local file, couldn't get any editor box online.
>
>> Great news that plain text is being conquered. But the situation of
>> bugs/behaviour is complicated, so let me continue my post in a "follow-me"
>> form.
>>
>>
>> First, I create a tiddler "New Tiddler" with the following 5 lines of
>> content (in a TW with vanilla theme -- PageTemplate etc, only some
>> additional CSS):
>>
>> Beginning
>> * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"
>> * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor"
>> ----
>> Some more text
>>
>> As I click on the first list item, I get an edit area and a preview of
>> the second one. If I edit it (say, change to "* [[TWted.min]] --
>> "editor"+") and press ctrl+enter, I get the first list item visually
>> substituted with the wikified new text which was thought to be from the
>> second item; but if I click "edit" and view the tiddler's text, it becomes
>> clear that actually the second item was changed, and that's a problem of
>> representation.
>>
>> Next, let's remove the added "+", the text is back to initial.
>>
>> Now I click one of the two list items again and start pressing the "down"
>> key. The editor acts as if there were *three* list items: two copies of the
>> second one and the first one; and the edit area and the preview for the
>> first one are displayed on the left, under the "no tags" box; moreover, the
>> preview area is grey as is the "no tags" box is.
>>
>> Next step is trying to click the first line ("Beginning"). Instead of
>> opening the first line, the editor opens actually the two first lines.
>> That's not a bug, but an unexpected behavior.
>>
>>
> Do you mean you see the editbox containing both
> "Beginning"
> and
> "* [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"?
>
> Yes, right.
> I didn't notice this behavior and don't see it in 1.6.1, hopefully fixed
> somehow?
>
> This and all the issues below still present.. My assembly is TW 2.6.5 +
Opera 12.15, win7 x64. (ok, retested in TW 2.6.6 as well, should I go 2.7.1
also?)
>
>
>> Than, let's try to click the last two lines. The editor opens the whole
>> text (the previewer behaves accordingly), but the height of the editor area
>> is only two lines.
>>
>
> As above.
>
>
>>
>> Finally, when I move the cursor so that the whole text is enclosed in the
>> border and then click it, I get an editor area of 5 lines height which fits
>> the whole text, and I can edit the whole text.
>>
>> This was intended. I thought it should be good if the tiddler was
> transcluded. In most cases the border is for showing "which part to edit".
> In others with "sub elements", such as sub lists, there is a new option
> chkTWtedIncludeSubs in 1.6.1 to tell the plugin whether to include the sub
> elements or not.
>
>
Yeah, sure, that's a good behaviour (actually by itself, even without
transclusions), I just described what I see in different situations, that
wasn't a "bug report".
>
>> Now let me extend the tiddler. I add the sixth line:
>>
>> * one more list item
>>
>> and here more weird things can be found.
>>
>> The behaviour is changed for two lines: 5th and 6th.
>>
>> Clicking line 5 (or line 4 which is the same in terms of displayed
>> borders or plain text pieces) shows now *empty* edit and preview areas.
>>
>
> Hopefully fixed in 1.6.1.
>
>
>>
>> For line 6, there's two details which makes its behaviour unusual. First,
>> edit area doesn't contain "*" and preview area shows just text instead of a
>> list item. Second, when the cursor in the edit area is one the left
>> position (beginning of the text), preview looks normal; but if the cursor
>> is in any other position, the text in the preview becomes aligned to the
>> right.
>>
>> This seems related to the beginning "second level item" issue. But I
> never had this issue and the plugins do not remove any character from the
> text to edit, so not sure what was wrong yet.
>
>
>>
>> Regarding transclusions.. I'll skip testing in my local TW since the
>> behaviour is already very complicated. In the online version [1] in both
>> Opera and FireFox I can't edit (clicking doesn't open the editor). Not sure
>> what cookie should be set but it seems that all of them are set to what
>> they are should be..
>>
>> May be try it off-line? The plugins disable editing features when a
> tiddler is marked "readOnly" by TiddlyWiki. I guess this is why you can't
> edit on-line.
>
Ok, grabbed the tiddlers from [1] to an offline TW 2.6.6. First, the
behaviour of the transclusion macros (tiddler and tabs) when the included
tiddler is missing has changed: instead of displaying blank space they
appear red with the following error message:
Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>:
TypeError: Cannot convert 'b.tiddler' to object
When included tiddlers are present,
tabs macro:
wow! not only works, but works just fine with those lists etc. In all the
tests I previously done in the "New Tiddler", editing within tabs works as
expected. The only thing I noticed is this: when I write one-line text, say
between lists:
...
* list item
some text
* one more item
...
I can't add an extra line in the text. When text is multi-line, enter adds
linebreak, and ctrl+enter causes to exit editor with saving; when text is
one line, enter causes editor-exiting and ctrl+enter doesn't do anything.
slider macro:
slider's (meta)behaviour is the best: when it's closed, I can edit the
macro, when it's opened, I can edit the content. But it has some
editor+preview positioning issues. For instance, change "Test 1"'s text to
the following:
some wonderful things!
* one
* two
more
* and
and then try to click the first line in the opened slider (for me, it
appeared near the bottom of the whole tiddler).
tiddler macro:
editor shows "<<tiddler 'Test 1'>>" instead of transcluded content.. at
least when transcluded content is one-line. I haven't tested deeply, but
when the content is changed to 5 lines (" some wonderful things! ..."), I
can partially edit the content, but the behaviour has once again many
issues.
>
>
>>
>> In conclusion, this version looks much better, but there's still much to
>> fix/work on.
>>
>> Thanks for the helping feedback! Please try 1.6.1 and see if the list
> item issues are really fixed.
>
Could you please update the slices listed below in all the plugins? They're
a bit confusing for me and should be more confusing for those who haven't
much experience with TWted/TWtid:
* *Description*
** **Needs to have* *
*
** *if necessary, *Core Version* (by the way, I suspect that the "2.6.5."
value can be wrongly interpreted by some engines; usually it is "2.6.5" *
*
*
*
>
>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
>> [1] http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Transclusion%20support]]
>>
>
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