TWtid v1.6.2 + TWted v1.6.2 + TWtcalc v0.8.1

Ark, Yakov, and Ton,

I think I had fixed the incorrect list item and incorrect positioning 
issues. Please check and see. The Error in macro <<tabs>>, <<slider>>, 
<<tiddler>> should be fixed too.

Also fixed some bugs in options panel and added support for IE 10.

See release note at 
http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.2%2B0.8.1%5D%5D for 
download links, test cases and other info.

Have fun!
Vincent

ps. There was a tiddler explaining the positioning issue made yesterday but 
now gone, possibly due to the recent hardware failure in TiddlySpace. Will 
make it again later.


On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:31:08 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent, 
>
> Some initial testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/ 
> TWted v1.60, TWtcalc v0.80 
>
> 1) Cannot reach the backstage (backstage button not available) with 
> all 3 plugins "activated" (systemConfug tag) 
> Without the 3 plugins "active" the backstage button is there. 
> With only TWtid active the backstage button disappears 
>
> 2) Example "Transclusion support" gives an error in all the 
> transclusion cases: 
> Error in macro <<tiddler>> 
> Error in macro <<slider>> 
> Error in macro <<tabs>> 
>
> Clicking on the error shows: 
>     Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>: 
>     TypeError: b.tiddler is null 
>
> After removing the systemConfig tag of all 3 plugins the "Transclusion 
> support" tiddler does not show errors anymore and works as expected: 
> everything is transcluded. 
> ================= 
> Upgraded to TWtid/TWted v1.61 
> 1) Disappearing backstage button remains. 
> 2) No errors anymore in "Transclusion support" example. 
>
> I had a quick look at both examples. Most things seem to work. 
> I did notice the strange behavior with the example of Yakov: 
> ------------------- 
> * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator" 
> * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor" 
> ---- 
> Some more text 
> ------------------- 
> I will test further and report. 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Ton 
>
> On Apr 15, 2:55 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Hi Vincent, 
> > 
> > tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with versions 
> > 1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same 
> > 
> > понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
> > написал: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Yakov, 
> > 
> > > Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items was 
> > > possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried locally 
> your 
> > > example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15 over 
> Win7 
> > > x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned here are 
> gone. 
> > > Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix. Thanks 
> again. 
> > 
> > > Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see below). 
> Maybe 
> > > conflicting with some addons? 
> > 
> > > On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: 
> > 
> > >> Hi Vincent, 
> > 
> > >> воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent 
> Yeh 
> > >> написал: 
> > 
> > >>> TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0 
> > 
> > >>> There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion 
> support. 
> > >>> Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual mode 
> and 
> > >>> flying C buttons, etc. 
> > 
> > >>> Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are displayed. 
> One 
> > >> small detail: second-level list items are displayed as 
> > 
> > >> * item text 
> > 
> > >> instead of 
> > 
> > >> ** item text 
> > 
> > > I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong. 
> > 
> > This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because of the 
> > "wrong selection of a list item to edit" issue. Two "*" appear where 
> they 
> > should be. 
> > 
> > > (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like Arc 
> does. 
> > 
> > > I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have the 
> > > positioning issue with local files? 
> > 
> > I meant a local file, couldn't get any editor box online. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> Great news that plain text is being conquered. But the situation of 
> > >> bugs/behaviour is complicated, so let me continue my post in a 
> "follow-me" 
> > >> form. 
> > 
> > >> First, I create a tiddler "New Tiddler" with the following 5 lines of 
> > >> content (in a TW with vanilla theme -- PageTemplate etc, only some 
> > >> additional CSS): 
> > 
> > >> Beginning 
> > >> * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator" 
> > >> * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor" 
> > >> ---- 
> > >> Some more text 
> > 
> > >> As I click on the first list item, I get an edit area and a preview 
> of 
> > >> the second one. If I edit it (say, change to "* [[TWted.min]] -- 
> > >> "editor"+") and press ctrl+enter, I get the first list item visually 
> > >> substituted with the wikified new text which was thought to be from 
> the 
> > >> second item; but if I click "edit" and view the tiddler's text, it 
> becomes 
> > >> clear that actually the second item was changed, and that's a problem 
> of 
> > >> representation. 
> > 
> > >> Next, let's remove the added "+", the text is back to initial. 
> > 
> > >> Now I click one of the two list items again and start pressing the 
> "down" 
> > >> key. The editor acts as if there were *three* list items: two copies 
> of the 
> > >> second one and the first one; and the edit area and the preview for 
> the 
> > >> first one are displayed on the left, under the "no tags" box; 
> moreover, the 
> > >> preview area is grey as is the "no tags" box is. 
> > 
> > >> Next step is trying to click the first line ("Beginning"). Instead of 
> > >> opening the first line, the editor opens actually the two first 
> lines. 
> > >> That's not a bug, but an unexpected behavior. 
> > 
> > > Do you mean you see the editbox containing both 
> > > "Beginning" 
> > > and 
> > > "* [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"? 
> > 
> > > Yes, right. 
> > > I didn't notice this behavior and don't see it in 1.6.1, hopefully 
> fixed 
> > > somehow? 
> > 
> > > This and all the issues below still present.. My assembly is TW 2.6.5 
> + 
> > 
> > Opera 12.15, win7 x64. (ok, retested in TW 2.6.6 as well, should I go 
> 2.7.1 
> > also?) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> Than, let's try to click the last two lines. The editor opens the 
> whole 
> > >> text (the previewer behaves accordingly), but the height of the 
> editor area 
> > >> is only two lines. 
> > 
> > > As above. 
> > 
> > >> Finally, when I move the cursor so that the whole text is enclosed in 
> the 
> > >> border and then click it, I get an editor area of 5 lines height 
> which fits 
> > >> the whole text, and I can edit the whole text. 
> > 
> > >> This was intended. I thought it should be good if the tiddler was 
> > > transcluded. In most cases the border is for showing "which part to 
> edit". 
> > > In others with "sub elements", such as sub lists, there is a new 
> option 
> > > chkTWtedIncludeSubs in 1.6.1 to tell the plugin whether to include the 
> sub 
> > > elements or not. 
> > 
> > Yeah, sure, that's a good behaviour (actually by itself, even without 
> > transclusions), I just described what I see in different situations, 
> that 
> > wasn't a "bug report". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> Now let me extend the tiddler. I add the sixth line: 
> > 
> > >> * one more list item 
> > 
> > >> and here more weird things can be found. 
> > 
> > >> The behaviour is changed for two lines: 5th and 6th. 
> > 
> > >> Clicking line 5 (or line 4 which is the same in terms of displayed 
> > >> borders or plain text pieces) shows now *empty* edit and preview 
> areas. 
> > 
> > > Hopefully fixed in 1.6.1. 
> > 
> > >> For line 6, there's two details which makes its behaviour unusual. 
> First, 
> > >> edit area doesn't contain "*" and preview area shows just text 
> instead of a 
> > >> list item. Second, when the cursor in the edit area is one the left 
> > >> position (beginning of the text), preview looks normal; but if the 
> cursor 
> > >> is in any other position, the text in the preview becomes aligned to 
> the 
> > >> right. 
> > 
> > >> This seems related to the beginning "second level item" issue. But I 
> > > never had this issue and the plugins do not remove any character from 
> the 
> > > text to edit, so not sure what was wrong yet. 
> > 
> > >> Regarding transclusions.. I'll skip testing in my local TW since the 
> > >> behaviour is already very complicated. In the online version [1] in 
> both 
> > >> Opera and FireFox I can't edit (clicking doesn't open the editor). 
> Not sure 
> > >> what cookie should be set but it seems that all of them are set to 
> what 
> > >> they are should be.. 
> > 
> > >> May be try it off-line? The plugins disable editing features when a 
> > > tiddler is marked "readOnly" by TiddlyWiki. I guess this is why you 
> can't 
> > > edit on-line. 
> > 
> > Ok, grabbed the tiddlers from [1] to an offline TW 2.6.6. First, the 
> > behaviour of the transclusion macros (tiddler and tabs) when the 
> included 
> > tiddler is missing has changed: instead of displaying blank space they 
> > appear red with the following error message: 
> > 
> > Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>: 
> > TypeError: Cannot convert 'b.tiddler' to object 
> > 
> > When included tiddlers are present, 
> > 
> > tabs macro: 
> > wow! not only works, but works just fine with those lists etc. In all 
> the 
> > tests I previously done in the "New Tiddler", editing within tabs works 
> as 
> > expected. The only thing I noticed is this: when I write one-line text, 
> say 
> > between lists: 
> > 
> > ... 
> > * list item 
> > some text 
> > * one more item 
> > ... 
> > 
> > I can't add an extra line in the text. When text is multi-line, enter 
> adds 
> > linebreak, and ctrl+enter causes to exit editor with saving; when text 
> is 
> > one line, enter causes editor-exiting and ctrl+enter doesn't do 
> anything. 
> > 
> > slider macro: 
> > slider's (meta)behaviour is the best: when it's closed, I can edit the 
> > macro, when it's opened, I can edit the content. But it has some 
> > editor+preview positioning issues. For instance, change "Test 1"'s text 
> to 
> > the following: 
> > 
> > some wonderful things! 
> > * one 
> > * two 
> > more 
> > * and 
> > 
> > and then try to click the first line in the opened slider (for me, it 
> > appeared near the bottom of the whole tiddler). 
> > 
> > tiddler macro: 
> > editor shows "<<tiddler 'Test 1'>>" instead of transcluded content.. at 
> > least when transcluded content is one-line. I haven't tested deeply, but 
> > when the content is changed to 5 lines (" some wonderful things! ..."), 
> I 
> > can partially edit the content, but the behaviour has once again many 
> > issues. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> In conclusion, this version looks much better, but there's still much 
> to 
> > >> fix/work on. 
> > 
> > >> Thanks for the helping feedback! Please try 1.6.1 and see if the list 
> > > item issues are really fixed. 
> > 
> > Could you please update the slices listed below in all the plugins? 
> They're 
> > a bit confusing for me and should be more confusing for those who 
> haven't 
> > much experience with TWted/TWtid: 
> > 
> > * *Description* 
> > ** **Needs to have* * 
> > * 
> > ** *if necessary, *Core Version* (by the way, I suspect that the 
> "2.6.5." 
> > value can be wrongly interpreted by some engines; usually it is "2.6.5" 
> * 
> > * 
> > * 
> > * 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> Best regards, 
> > >> Yakov. 
> > 
> > >> [1]http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Transclusion%20support]] 
>

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