Yakov, Thanks for testing the plugins. The "more" thing is not taken care of yet, and the keyboard navigation issues are still there (for a while already). They will be addressed in the future. Currently I am writing some documentation and preparing to separate the large table support (scrolling of table body, fixed rows/cols, etc.) to reduce the plugin size a bit.
Well, I thought I would separate the "other" part of codes so there is one version for tables only. But soon I realized that was impractical since *all editing features share the same core codes*. To make one for tables only needs to duplicate the core codes, which does not really help much in reducing the plugin size. Separating the large table support, however, could reduce a noticeable amount of codes, I think, since this part is outside of the core of the plugins. The version 1.6.4 is mainly on *fixing the positioning issue*, and some restructuring for the separation of large table support. See release note athttp:// http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.4%5D%5D download links, test cases and other info. Have fun! Vincent p.s. By the way, what do you suggest to change in the plugin information? I have not much idea of what that part should be. Or you can give me some reference? On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:53:41 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: > > Hi Vincent, > > versions 1.6.3 definitely work much better. Would you mind to change the > Description/Core Version/Needs to have slices in the .min versions of the > plugins too? > > No "extra list items", no strange things with the first list item and many > more things got better. Now I can edit both translcusion macro and > transcluded content for each of tiddler/slider/tabs, although for tiddler I > can do that only with some more text in the edit box (not just <<tiddler > ..>>, but also text before and after). > > Now a couple of error messages. My "New Tiddler 1" contains the same stuff > as in the previous tests, from your site: > > ------------------------------ > @@color:blue;The plugins disable editing features if the tiddler is marked > ''readOnly'' by ~TiddlyWiki. You may need to copy it off-line to try.@@ > > Try change the content in one of the transcluded tiddlers. In this test > case changes are synchronized among all copies. > !! {{{<<tiddler>>}}} transcluded > <<tiddler 'Test 1'>> > !! {{{<<slider>>}}} transcluded > <<slider '' 'Test 1' 'Test 1'>> > !! {{{<<tabs>>}}} transcluded > <<tabs '' > 'Tab1' '' 'Test 1' > 'Tab2' '' 'Test 2' > >> > ------------------------------ > > "Test 1" contains > > ------------------------------ > some wonderful things! > * one > * two > more > * and > ------------------------------ > > and "Test 2": > ------------------------------ > more interesting things.. > Let's try lists: > * item one > * item two > and then more text > * one more item > ------------------------------ > > Now let's go to the "New Tiddler 1": > > there's a position of the cursor that allows to open the text of the whole > <<tiddler>> transclusion. But if I mouseover the "more" line and click, I > get this message: > > ... > Message: Plain text starts at 0 after LI[text:( two)], ends at -2 before > LI[text:( and)] in tiddler <New Tiddler 1> > ... > > Another one appears if I click the "more" line in the <<tabs>> > translcusion: > > Message: Plain text starts at 2 after LI[text:()], ends at 0 before > LI[text:()] in tiddler <Test 1> > > Nothing like that, however, happens when I click "more" line in the > <<slider>> transclusion. > > > I took a look at the old tests of table editing. This one contains some > tiny issues: > > --------------------- > !!!!Section > |со слитыми ячейками|c > |h-cell1|>|h-cell2|h > |c11+|c12|c13| > |~|c22|c23| > > |с отсутствующими ячейками|c > |h-cell1|h-cell2|h > |c11|c12| > |c21| > !!!!!!end > > |двигаем столбцы|c > ||h-cell1|h-cell2||h > |c13|c11|c12|c14| > |c34|c21|c22|c24| > [[тестируемая вставка]] > ---- > тесты вставки: > <<tiddler [[test 3##Section]]>> > --------------------- > > First, try navigation via arrows in the first table. If you try up/down in > c12, c13, c22 and c23, you'll probably get some strange behaviour (diagonal > and other jumping). > > In the second table, you can edit the missing cell by direct clicking on > it, but can't reach it by arrows from other cells. > > In the third one, you can find an "escaping caption" fun :) just mouseover > the table and don't stop it -- when I move cursor being over the table, > caption goes more and more to the right. > > I think that's all for now. > > Best regards, > Yakov. > > пятница, 26 апреля 2013 г., 17:29:58 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh > написал: >> >> Ton, >> >> I am very glad that you like v1.6.2. I hope you will like v1.6.3 even >> more (because I do). >> >> TWtid v1.6.3+TWted v1.6.3. (No changes made to TWtcalc 0.8.1) >> >> Bug fixes for transclusion support, edit the macro command as well as >> the transcluded content (see >> http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BTransclusion%20support%5D%5D for >> details), better focusing border behavior, etc. >> >> See release note athttp:// >> http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.3%5D%5D >> download links, test cases and other info. >> >> Have fun! >> Vincent >> >> On Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:50:50 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >>> >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> I think about replacing Table editor v1.4.6 (which I use daily) by >>> this version; it means I like this version very much. >>> Testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/TWted v1.62, >>> TWtcalc v0.81. >>> 1) Backstage button visible again. >>> 2) The list item is now correct. >>> 3) Table editing works good. >>> Some - minor - points: >>> a) After e.g. row/column editing (insert/copy/paste rows/columns) you >>> cannot edit the cell contents directly; you need to leave the "table >>> area" and re-enter this area to enable cell editing again. >>> b) When using the arrow keys to go from one cell to another, there is >>> different behavior using "->" (step from cel to cell with content >>> selected) or "<-" (step first from character to character in a cell >>> and then to the other cell). >>> c) By disabling TWtid and TWted (no checkmarks in option panels) stops >>> editing possibility but leaves the area boundary marks of table and >>> block elements (an arbitrary viewer of my TW does not want to see >>> these). >>> In the "old" table only editor v1.4.6 I used Simon Baird's >>> ToggleTagPlugin to toggle the systemConfig tags to disable editing and >>> get rid of the H, C and E buttons. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ton >>> >>> On Apr 19, 6:46 am, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > TWtid v1.6.2 + TWted v1.6.2 + TWtcalc v0.8.1 >>> > >>> > Ark, Yakov, and Ton, >>> > >>> > I think I had fixed the incorrect list item and incorrect positioning >>> > issues. Please check and see. The Error in macro <<tabs>>, <<slider>>, >>> > <<tiddler>> should be fixed too. >>> > >>> > Also fixed some bugs in options panel and added support for IE 10. >>> > >>> > See release note athttp:// >>> twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.2%2B0.8.1...for >>> > download links, test cases and other info. >>> > >>> > Have fun! >>> > Vincent >>> > >>> > ps. There was a tiddler explaining the positioning issue made >>> yesterday but >>> > now gone, possibly due to the recent hardware failure in TiddlySpace. >>> Will >>> > make it again later. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:31:08 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hi Vincent, >>> > >>> > > Some initial testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/ >>> > > TWted v1.60, TWtcalc v0.80 >>> > >>> > > 1) Cannot reach the backstage (backstage button not available) with >>> > > all 3 plugins "activated" (systemConfug tag) >>> > > Without the 3 plugins "active" the backstage button is there. >>> > > With only TWtid active the backstage button disappears >>> > >>> > > 2) Example "Transclusion support" gives an error in all the >>> > > transclusion cases: >>> > > Error in macro <<tiddler>> >>> > > Error in macro <<slider>> >>> > > Error in macro <<tabs>> >>> > >>> > > Clicking on the error shows: >>> > > Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>: >>> > > TypeError: b.tiddler is null >>> > >>> > > After removing the systemConfig tag of all 3 plugins the >>> "Transclusion >>> > > support" tiddler does not show errors anymore and works as expected: >>> > > everything is transcluded. >>> > > ================= >>> > > Upgraded to TWtid/TWted v1.61 >>> > > 1) Disappearing backstage button remains. >>> > > 2) No errors anymore in "Transclusion support" example. >>> > >>> > > I had a quick look at both examples. Most things seem to work. >>> > > I did notice the strange behavior with the example of Yakov: >>> > > ------------------- >>> > > * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator" >>> > > * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor" >>> > > ---- >>> > > Some more text >>> > > ------------------- >>> > > I will test further and report. >>> > >>> > > Cheers, >>> > >>> > > Ton >>> > >>> > > On Apr 15, 2:55 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > > Hi Vincent, >>> > >>> > > > tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with >>> versions >>> > > > 1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same >>> > >>> > > > понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent >>> Yeh >>> > > > написал: >>> > >>> > > > > Yakov, >>> > >>> > > > > Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items >>> was >>> > > > > possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried >>> locally >>> > > your >>> > > > > example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15 >>> over >>> > > Win7 >>> > > > > x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned >>> here are >>> > > gone. >>> > > > > Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix. >>> Thanks >>> > > again. >>> > >>> > > > > Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see >>> below). >>> > > Maybe >>> > > > > conflicting with some addons? >>> > >>> > > > > On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: >>> > >>> > > > >> Hi Vincent, >>> > >>> > > > >> воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь >>> Vincent >>> > > Yeh >>> > > > >> написал: >>> > >>> > > > >>> TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0 >>> > >>> > > > >>> There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion >>> > > support. >>> > > > >>> Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual >>> mode >>> > > and >>> > > > >>> flying C buttons, etc. >>> > >>> > > > >>> Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are >>> displayed. >>> > > One >>> > > > >> small detail: second-level list items are displayed as >>> > >>> > > > >> * item text >>> > >>> > > > >> instead of >>> > >>> > > > >> ** item text >>> > >>> > > > > I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong. >>> > >>> > > > This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because >>> of the >>> > > > "wrong selection of a list item to edit" issue. Two "*" appear >>> where >>> > > they >>> > > > should be. >>> > >>> > > > > (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like >>> Arc >>> > > does. >>> > >>> > > > > I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have >>> the >>> > > > > positioning issue with local files? >>> > >>> > > > I meant a local file, couldn't get any editor box online. >>> > >>> > > > >> Great news that plain text is being conquered. But the >>> situation of >>> > > > >> bugs/behaviour is complicated, so let me continue my post in a >>> > > "follow-me" >>> > > > >> form. >>> > >>> > > > >> First, I create a tiddler "New Tiddler" with the following 5 >>> lines of >>> > > > >> content (in a TW with vanilla theme -- PageTemplate etc, only >>> some >>> > > > >> additional CSS): >>> > >>> > > > >> Beginning >>> > > > >> * [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator" >>> > > > >> * [[TWted.min]] -- "editor" >>> > > > >> ---- >>> > > > >> Some more text >>> > >>> > > > >> As I click on the first list item, I get an edit area and a >>> preview >>> > > of >>> > > > >> the second one. If I edit it (say, change to "* [[TWted.min]] >>> -- >>> > > > >> "editor"+") and press ctrl+enter, I get the first list item >>> visually >>> > > > >> substituted with the wikified new text which was thought to be >>> from >>> > > the >>> > > > >> second item; but if I click "edit" and view the tiddler's text, >>> it >>> > > becomes >>> > > > >> clear that actually the second item was changed, and that's a >>> problem >>> > > of >>> > > > >> representation. >>> > >>> > > > >> Next, let's remove the added "+", the text is back to initial. >>> > >>> > > > >> Now I click one of the two list items again and start pressing >>> the >>> > > "down" >>> > > > >> key. The editor acts as if there were *three* list items: two >>> copies >>> > > of the >>> > > > >> second one and the first one; and the edit area and the preview >>> for >>> > > the >>> > > > >> first one are displayed on the left, under the "no tags" box; >>> > > moreover, the >>> > > > >> preview area is grey as is the "no tags" box is. >>> > >>> > > > >> Next step is trying to click the first line ("Beginning"). >>> Instead of >>> > > > >> opening the first line, the editor opens actually the two first >>> > > lines. >>> > > > >> That's not a bug, but an unexpected behavior. >>> > >>> > > > > Do you mean you see the editbox containing both >>> > > > > "Beginning" >>> > > > > and >>> > > > > "* [[TWtid.min]] -- "wikitext manipulator"? >>> > >>> > > > > Yes, right. >>> > > > > I didn't notice this behavior and don't see it in 1.6.1, >>> hopefully >>> > > fixed >>> > > > > somehow? >>> > >>> > > > > This and all the issues below still present.. My assembly is TW >>> 2.6.5 >>> > > + >>> > >>> > > > Opera 12.15, win7 x64. (ok, retested in TW 2.6.6 as well, should I >>> go >>> > > 2.7.1 >>> > > > also?) >>> > >>> > > > >> Than, let's try to click the last two lines. The editor opens >>> the >>> > > whole >>> > > > >> text (the previewer behaves accordingly), but the height of the >>> > > editor area >>> > > > >> is only two lines. >>> > >>> > > > > As above. >>> > >>> > > > >> Finally, when I move the cursor so that the whole text is >>> enclosed in >>> > > the >>> > > > >> border and then click it, I get an editor area of 5 lines >>> height >>> > > which fits >>> > > > >> the whole text, and I can edit the whole text. >>> > >>> > > > >> This was intended. I thought it should be good if the tiddler >>> was >>> > > > > transcluded. In most cases the border is for showing "which part >>> to >>> > > edit". >>> > > > > In others with "sub elements", such as sub lists, there is a new >>> > > option >>> > > > > chkTWtedIncludeSubs in 1.6.1 to tell the plugin whether to >>> include the >>> > > sub >>> > > > > elements or not. >>> > >>> > > > Yeah, sure, that's a good behaviour (actually by itself, even >>> without >>> > > > transclusions), I just described what I see in different >>> situations, >>> > > that >>> > > > wasn't a "bug report". >>> > >>> > > > >> Now let me extend the tiddler. I add the sixth line: >>> > >>> > > > >> * one more list item >>> > >>> > > > >> and here more weird things can be found. >>> > >>> > > > >> The behaviour is changed for two lines: 5th and 6th. >>> > >>> > > > >> Clicking line 5 (or line 4 which is the same in terms of >>> displayed >>> > > > >> borders or plain text pieces) shows now *empty* edit and >>> preview >>> > > areas. >>> > >>> > > > > Hopefully fixed in 1.6.1. >>> > >>> > > > >> For line 6, there's two details which makes its behaviour >>> unusual. >>> > > First, >>> > > > >> edit area doesn't contain "*" and preview area shows just text >>> > > instead of a >>> > > > >> list item. Second, when the cursor in the edit area is one the >>> left >>> > > > >> position (beginning of the text), preview looks normal; but if >>> the >>> > > cursor >>> > > > >> is in any other position, the text in the preview becomes >>> aligned to >>> > > the >>> > > > >> right. >>> > >>> > > > >> This seems related to the beginning "second level item" issue. >>> But I >>> > > > > never had this issue and the plugins do not remove any character >>> from >>> > > the >>> > > > > text to edit, so not sure what was wrong yet. >>> > >>> > > > >> Regarding transclusions.. I'll skip testing in my local TW >>> since the >>> > > > >> behaviour is already very complicated. In the online version >>> [1] in >>> > > both >>> > > > >> Opera and FireFox I can't edit (clicking doesn't open the >>> editor). >>> > > Not sure >>> > > > >> what cookie should be set but it seems that all of them are set >>> to >>> > > what >>> > > > >> they are should be.. >>> > >>> > > > >> May be try it off-line? The plugins disable editing features >>> when a >>> > > > > tiddler is marked "readOnly" by TiddlyWiki. I guess this is why >>> you >>> > > can't >>> > > > > edit on-line. >>> > >>> > > > Ok, grabbed the tiddlers from [1] to an offline TW 2.6.6. First, >>> the >>> > > > behaviour of the transclusion macros (tiddler and tabs) when the >>> > > included >>> > > > tiddler is missing has changed: instead of displaying blank space >>> they >>> > > > appear red with the following error message: >>> > >>> > > > Error while executing macro <<tiddler>>: >>> > > > TypeError: Cannot convert 'b.tiddler' to object >>> > >>> > > > When included tiddlers are present, >>> > >>> > > > tabs macro: >>> > > > wow! not only works, but >>> > >>> > ... >>> > >>> > read more >> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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