Hi Ton, I meant my own content, but I have figured that item out. I now have a link showing up in "Contents" when I click on the Contents tab in the navigation.
That means I only need to get the ordering done. I've followed your directions in the Ordering (at least, I think I did), but it doesn't seem to be re-ordering the items in the Sidebar menu. I AM getting the "Contents" tiddler at the top of the list in the 'lists' info section of the $:/tags/Sidebar, but it is showing up in thin italics, which implies to me that it's not pointing to the "Contents" tiddler that I created. Any idea what I might have done wrong there? Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:53:05 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, > > For reordering have a look at [1]. > See Customization > Advanced customization > Adding parts by tagging. > Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. > > What do you mean by "the body of the 'Contents' tiddler"? Do you mean the > TW documentation or your own content? > > Cheers, > > Ton > > [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >> >> Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the "Contents" tab >> added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab >> shows first in the sidebar instead of last? >> >> The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler >> become a list of links in the sidebar. >> >> If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! >> >> Thanks again! >> Warm regards, >> Elizabeth >> >> On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >>> >>> Hi Elizabeth, >>> >>> Have a look at [1]. >>> See Customization > Advanced customization > Adding parts by tagging >>> where you can find information about the system tags. >>> The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in >>> the process of upgrading my guides. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ton >>> >>> >>> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. >>>> >>>> The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or >>>> anything. >>>> >>>> Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? >>>> >>>> $:/tags/ControlPanel >>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel> >>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate >>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate> >>>> $:/tags/EditToolbar <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar> >>>> $:/tags/MoreSideBar <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar> >>>> $:/tags/PageControls >>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls> >>>> $:/tags/PageTemplate >>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate> >>>> $:/tags/SideBar <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar> >>>> $:/tags/TiddlerInfo <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo> >>>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate >>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate> >>>> $:/tags/ViewToolbar <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for >>>> sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label "Adjusting >>>> the >>>> appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13)". I'm not really sure >>>> I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the patience and help! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>>> >>>>> Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW >>>>> would be excellent for a "choose your own adventure" type book - I used >>>>> to >>>>> be obsessed with a series of books called "Fighting Fantasy" when I was a >>>>> kid. >>>>> >>>>> If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download >>>>> the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers >>>>> from >>>>> your old wiki into the new one. >>>>> >>>>> If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to >>>>> help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it >>>>> will eventually have all the features that I "need" for my project (I am >>>>> writing a textbook) >>>>> >>>>> I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to >>>>> write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going "under the >>>>> hood". Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it >>>>> looks like to people who haven't. >>>>> >>>>> I hope you get it to work. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Daniel & Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can >>>>>> figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own >>>>>> tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's >>>>>> a >>>>>> few people collaborating on this). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm >>>>>> using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is >>>>>> something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki <-- >>>>>> mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and >>>>>> plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with >>>>>> base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure >>>>>> which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>> Elizabeth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting >>>>>>> that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- >>>>>>> technical >>>>>>> architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the >>>>>>> nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> "unfriendly" now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires >>>>>>> together to switch things on and off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally >>>>>>> metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant "Initial >>>>>>> Experience". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes >>>>>>> to tw5 and not the prior tw version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ;Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just want to say thank you for all of the help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into >>>>>>>> this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, >>>>>>>> for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm >>>>>>>> disappointed >>>>>>>> with some of the design choices in TW5. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it >>>>>>>> was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to >>>>>>>> tailor >>>>>>>> pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to >>>>>>>> figure >>>>>>>> out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that >>>>>>>> they had >>>>>>>> a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The >>>>>>>> documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out >>>>>>>> what I >>>>>>>> want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm >>>>>>>> seriously >>>>>>>> worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly >>>>>>>> configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and >>>>>>>> use special characters, figure out where those things are and how they >>>>>>>> work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me >>>>>>>> how to >>>>>>>> do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I >>>>>>>> never had >>>>>>>> to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think >>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the >>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>> Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these >>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>> seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that >>>>>>>> either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be >>>>>>>> intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point >>>>>>>> constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> that's gone into this, and that I even had the option of using >>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> - Elizabeth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a look at [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ton >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There's a list of system tags here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Richard! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do >>>>>>>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Once again, thank you! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; >>>>>>>>>>>> "Table of Contents" and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to >>>>>>>>>>>>> being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which >>>>>>>>>>>>> are now on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been >>>>>>>>>>>>> removed... but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to >>>>>>>>>>>>> do this in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It >>>>>>>>>>>>> is most >>>>>>>>>>>>> likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and >>>>>>>>>>>>> content to >>>>>>>>>>>>> search through... anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to >>>>>>>>>>>>> modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub >>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation >>>>>>>>>>>>> points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> special >>>>>>>>>>>>> system tiddler? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Daniel Baird >>>>>>> objoke: I had a problem and decided to solve it with threading. 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