Greetings, For TW5v3.2, anyone know how to remove the "tags" information from the tiddler? I'm also interested in possibly removing or changing the color of the name by 'last edited time'.
Thanks for the help! On Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:07:29 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: > > Hi Ton, > > I meant my own content, but I have figured that item out. I now have a > link showing up in "Contents" when I click on the Contents tab in the > navigation. > > That means I only need to get the ordering done. I've followed your > directions in the Ordering (at least, I think I did), but it doesn't seem > to be re-ordering the items in the Sidebar menu. I AM getting the > "Contents" tiddler at the top of the list in the 'lists' info section of > the $:/tags/Sidebar, but it is showing up in thin italics, which implies to > me that it's not pointing to the "Contents" tiddler that I created. Any > idea what I might have done wrong there? > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:53:05 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >> >> Hi Elizabeth, >> >> For reordering have a look at [1]. >> See Customization > Advanced customization > Adding parts by tagging. >> Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. >> >> What do you mean by "the body of the 'Contents' tiddler"? Do you mean the >> TW documentation or your own content? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ton >> >> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >> >> >> On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >>> >>> Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the "Contents" tab >>> added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab >>> shows first in the sidebar instead of last? >>> >>> The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler >>> become a list of links in the sidebar. >>> >>> If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I >>> need! >>> >>> Thanks again! >>> Warm regards, >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>> >>>> Have a look at [1]. >>>> See Customization > Advanced customization > Adding parts by tagging >>>> where you can find information about the system tags. >>>> The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am >>>> in the process of upgrading my guides. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Ton >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. >>>>> >>>>> The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or >>>>> anything. >>>>> >>>>> Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? >>>>> >>>>> $:/tags/ControlPanel >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel> >>>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate> >>>>> $:/tags/EditToolbar >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar> >>>>> $:/tags/MoreSideBar >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar> >>>>> $:/tags/PageControls >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls> >>>>> $:/tags/PageTemplate >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate> >>>>> $:/tags/SideBar <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar> >>>>> $:/tags/TiddlerInfo >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo> >>>>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate> >>>>> $:/tags/ViewToolbar >>>>> <http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you >>>>> for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label >>>>> "Adjusting >>>>> the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13)". I'm not really >>>>> sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for the patience and help! >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards, >>>>> Elizabeth >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>>>> >>>>>> Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW >>>>>> would be excellent for a "choose your own adventure" type book - I used >>>>>> to >>>>>> be obsessed with a series of books called "Fighting Fantasy" when I was >>>>>> a >>>>>> kid. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download >>>>>> the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers >>>>>> from >>>>>> your old wiki into the new one. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to >>>>>> help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it >>>>>> will eventually have all the features that I "need" for my project (I am >>>>>> writing a textbook) >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 >>>>>> to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going "under >>>>>> the >>>>>> hood". Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it >>>>>> looks like to people who haven't. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you get it to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Daniel & Richard, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can >>>>>>> figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own >>>>>>> tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like >>>>>>> there's a >>>>>>> few people collaborating on this). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm >>>>>>> using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is >>>>>>> something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki <-- >>>>>>> mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and >>>>>>> plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure >>>>>>> which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>> Elizabeth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting >>>>>>>> that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- >>>>>>>> technical >>>>>>>> architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> "unfriendly" now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical >>>>>>>> wires >>>>>>>> together to switch things on and off. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally >>>>>>>> metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant "Initial >>>>>>>> Experience". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com >>>>>>>> goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just want to say thank you for all of the help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into >>>>>>>>> this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, >>>>>>>>> for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm >>>>>>>>> disappointed >>>>>>>>> with some of the design choices in TW5. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it >>>>>>>>> was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to >>>>>>>>> tailor >>>>>>>>> pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to >>>>>>>>> figure >>>>>>>>> out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that >>>>>>>>> they had >>>>>>>>> a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The >>>>>>>>> documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out >>>>>>>>> what I >>>>>>>>> want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm >>>>>>>>> seriously >>>>>>>>> worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in >>>>>>>>> mind. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly >>>>>>>>> configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and >>>>>>>>> use special characters, figure out where those things are and how >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me >>>>>>>>> how to >>>>>>>>> do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and >>>>>>>>> running with >>>>>>>>> really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I >>>>>>>>> never had >>>>>>>>> to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think >>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the >>>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>>> Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome >>>>>>>>> these days >>>>>>>>> seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that >>>>>>>>> either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be >>>>>>>>> intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the >>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>> constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate >>>>>>>>> the work >>>>>>>>> that's gone into this, and that I even had the option of using >>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> - Elizabeth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Elizabeth, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have a look at [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ton >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There's a list of system tags here: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Richard! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do >>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, thank you! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Table of Contents" and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are now on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed... but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do this in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is most >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> search through... anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub >>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> special >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system tiddler? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Daniel Baird >>>>>>>> objoke: I had a problem and decided to solve it with threading. >>>>>>>> Now, have problems. two I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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