Hi Ben,

Electron seems to just be a wrapper for packaging web apps to run as if 
they were native - it doesn't call the native gui directly to create 
windows like eg; mac gap (https://github.com/MacGapProject) but it does let 
you create native menus and popups. Should be fine - have you tried turning 
a TW into a desktop app with it? Did it work?

I don't really understand why you want to have separate Tiddlywiki's all 
showing up at the same time - how will the data in them be different? 
There's also no mechanism for passing messages between tiddlywikis in the 
way that you're imagining to keep them in sync, but it is quite possible to 
create a window like the one you're imagining where different panels show 
different views - onto the data within one tiddlywiki. 

" it doesn't make much sense to start out with a full-blown wiki and trying 
to mold it into something completely different."

Except that it does if you want to use tiddlyWIKI to make it with - whilst 
it's true that you can completely rewrite the UI for Tw as explained above, 
you would be most rash to throw any of the tiddlers away unless you're sure 
you know what it does. It's not really clear what you see the value of Tw 
as being to you - what bit of your app do you want it to do? Store the 
tiddlers? It stores them in a wiki-store, so you're already dealing with a 
wiki, essentially. Which bit is it that you think is wasteful? The editor? 
The filter functions? The save mechanism? You could take any of these 
pieces out but in my opinion it would be crazy to start doing that unless 
you really understand how tiddlywiki works in great detail. It's not very 
wasteful in general terms to leave everything in there, even if you don't 
use it all.

Maybe if you describe in more detail what you actually want to achieve we 
could tell you how feasible it is to do it by simply modding an existing 
edition? Have you seen TiddlyMap (http://tiddlymap.org/) for example?

Regards,
Richard


On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:19:10 AM UTC+10, Ben H. wrote:

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> The image didn't embed properly. Lemme try again:
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> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 5:16:09 PM UTC-7, Ben H. wrote:
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>> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 2:34:58 PM UTC-7, Evolena wrote:
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>>> Maybe the right question is not "How do I separate the Tiddlers from the 
>>> Wiki?" (tiddlers, not tiddles :) )but "How do I modify the UI to fit my 
>>> needs"?
>>>
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>> No, I definitely want to go beyond tweaking TW-Vanilla. This here (if you 
>> can decipher my handwriting) is a page of notes I wrote out last night 
>> about how tiddlers could be used to build an app with electron: 
>> <http://electron.atom.io/>
>>
>> A single panel could be a simple properties pane, or it could be a 
>> full-blown text editor, depending on what tiddlers you include. In either 
>> case, it doesn't make much sense to start out with a full-blown wiki and 
>> trying to mold it into something completely different.
>>
>> Mario, definitely put your experimental results in a repository or 
>> something. I'll make some clumsy attempts to monkey with it as well. 
>>
>

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