Mark, One solution to what you ask is to use a Draggable List of Tiddlers along with Tobias's Preview Plugin so you can review the content on hover over each tiddler link, so you can confirm where you want to position that particular tiddler in a list of tiddlers.
The Source document can be excised into tiddlers tagged with the source documents name, then after reordering you have another tiddler that transcludes all tiddlers into it according to the Order from the Draging operations (using the List field). In this way you actually get to retain the Original order as well as see your manipulated order. A Feature could be included to to retain original tiddlers as well as edited ones to see before and After. Advance Opportunities then arise, like multiple virtual documents that mix and match content and presents it in different formats, such as a short and long resume based on the same content. Tiddlers could be created with a serial number (or use the created field?) or have chapter and section fields, even need to edit flags etc... Perhaps one could use one of the KanBan Board Solutions for organising text within a document or chapter? Regards Tony On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 9:40:57 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: > > I don't think most people want to wrangle 20+ little tiddlers just so > they can access one section inside an article. The old TWC had sections, > and I think a lot of us were flabbergasted that the "improved" TW5 didn't. > The old system works the way people actually think. > > It might be different if there were better tools for moving, annotating, > deleting, and ordering small tiddlers, but there's not. How do you list a > bunch of tiddlers, keep them in order, move them around, without having to > open individual tiddlers to modify a sort field? Or create a massive list > field in a Tagging tiddler -- working in a field box shorter than this > sentence? How do you put them back into a single tiddler? How do you > prevent orphans? I'm sure someone could come up with various tools to > accomplish these tasks after the fact, but shouldn't these tools be in the > core if we're expected to routinely use them that way? > > -- Mark > > On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 5:08:26 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote: >> >> This conversation has happened many times, but the conclusion has always >> been the same. The power of tiddlywiki comes from having different >> tiddlers, you can't have only one tiddler and use what is special about >> tiddlywiki. >> >> The way to do what you are talking about in tiddlywiki is to have a bunch >> of small tiddlers that are displayed using a template. You can see an >> example of this here ( >> https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/TiddlyBook/#Alice’s%20Adventures%20In%20Wonderland), >> >> each paragraph is a separate tiddler but they are all displayed inside a >> single tiddler using a template. So you could gather together the first >> paragraph of each chapter, or mark the chapters or paragraphs by subject or >> however you want to do it and then see a list of them that fits whatever >> criteria you are looking for. >> >> Anything that you do that will let you do that in a single tiddler is >> going to be equivalent to reinventing tiddlywiki with separate tiddlers >> inside a single tiddler. You will have to have the equivalent of tags and >> field to give each tiddler metadata so you can sort it, and something like >> a title if you want to be able to reference a paragraph individually, and >> it will have text. >> >> The problem is an interface problem, we need to make a better interface >> so that we can write one tiddler and have it automatically split up based >> on markup (the text slicer plugin sort of does this already), not reinvent >> tiddlywiki inside a single tiddler. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9140765a-ba4d-4415-9703-6f0c9283ec5e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
