So finding good ways to organize my tabs and containers (living bookmark
workflows) has been a quest of mine for a while. I've tried some different
options out, and the add-on based solutions seem to have huge performance
losses for me. I've probably been incompetent in how I wield and tweak
these environments. I'm always looking to improve (so if you have any
approaches or tricks, please let me know).
I can't live without workspaces; virtualization of desktops has changed how
I reason about practical computing in a ton of ways. I've come a long way
since Commodore 64 and Windows, and at this point, I'm addicted to
workspaces in my desktop environments. This caused me to move to tiling
window managers as my desktop environment to have more microscopic control
and automation. I can't say I'm good at it, but it's been damned useful.
I often abuse Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab to navigate my tabs in FF. I
navigate between my tabbed FF windows with mod+Tab and Mod+Shift+Tab with
the same directionality. It makes a kind of tree.
Here's a notion of the DE and the "Tabbed Tiling" of the FF windows. Each
Tiled Tab is a container
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This is when I switch to another browser window tab.
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The tile window manager gets pretty awesome when I need to start using lots
of windows in the same container (each tab can be its own container). For
example:
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Working in terminals while browsing is useful. It can make even messy
workspaces very usable.
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Background to boot, clean workspace to boot:
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That's the idea anyways. I'm hoping with BurnTreeC's Select Mode add-on,
I'll be able to continue to using less of my mouse with Tiddlywiki (which I
use in full screen mode) especially.
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 2:26:42 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Digresssing from the digression ... what do you do to get those tabbed
> window trees?
>
> Thanks,
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>>
>> This may be a FF issue, but it's Tiddlywiki and Tiddlyback related in
>> this case, imho. Maybe there is something to be done here besides closing
>> FF out. I'm hopeful something can be done because I generally have several
>> hundred tabs between 5-10 FF windows open at all times (tabbed window trees
>> are amazing) with 40-60 add-ons and other tweaks sitting at ~4GB without
>> running into this memory problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:55:35 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had memory problems with or without TW (I think) with FF on
>>> Windows. I don't seem to have the same problems when running on linux, but
>>> that may just be that linux leaves more memory for FF to work with. I was
>>> hoping that all the changes at 57 would result in better memory management,
>>> but alas, that is not the case. The only solution seems to be to
>>> periodically close out FF.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly
>>>> related issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out
>>>> (obviously, you owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any
>>>> degree).
>>>>
>>>> I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to
>>>> TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use
>>>> FF61 (TiddlyBackup, Owl, AdNauseam, English Popup Dictionary,
>>>> ScrollAnywhere; fairly vanilla otherwise), on Manjaro, and I save probably
>>>> ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using between 5-15GB (including swap) of
>>>> RAM
>>>> on FF which only has my wiki loaded. When I close it out, and reload, I'm
>>>> back down to minimal FF memory usage. Clearly, I am doing something wrong.
>>>> I spend so much time in Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that
>>>> I'm willing to spend 15GB of memory if I need to. I'd rather not though.
>>>>
>>>> I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.
>>>>
>>>> I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage (and that
>>>> isn't terribly consistent either). From a freshly opened browser, I can
>>>> spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will balloon up for a
>>>> minutes, but eventually something cuts away at quite a bit of it (still
>>>> using 3GB of memory instead of 2GB on startup). However, over the course
>>>> of
>>>> a day, it builds up and doesn't get culled away. Is it demonically
>>>> possessed? No, I am probably incompetent here. I woke up this morning with
>>>> almost max memory usage which was solved by just closing the FF for TW (I
>>>> use FF dev ed for browsing). I'd prefer to only close the browser when
>>>> I've
>>>> got an excellent reason.
>>>>
>>>> I may just eventually move to the NPM version, but I've experienced
>>>> other kinds of problems with it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably thinking about this all wrong-headed, and I would be
>>>> grateful for any insight you may have to quelling this problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox"
>>>>>> ... if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded
>>>>> from duckduckgo
>>>>>
>>>>> -m
>>>>>
>>>>
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