Thanks Arc, I've downloaded Firefox 23.0a1 on OS X and I'm experiencing the same behaviour. I'll investigate further and post back here,
Best wishes Jeremy On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Arc Acorn <[email protected]> wrote: > I realize things having to do with nightly builds are always a bit iffy, > but I figure'd I would report that TiddlyFox is no longer working as of the > Firefox 23.0a1 > > When trying to save I get the generic "not possible to save changes" > notice. > > > On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45:44 PM UTC-7, Yakov wrote: >> >> Hi Jeremy and Arc, >> >> today I encountered one more corruption, of a big TW (took hell of time >> to recover), so today is the time to dig this more. >> >> First, the online services. Well, they can be easily found by googling >> smth like "decode text online".. well, I've done this in russian and hence >> used russian services, but to give an example, I'll say that the one which >> worked well is [1]. It is quite straight-forward, the first button under >> the text area is "fit the encoding", the next one is to be used if you know >> how the text is actually encoded, the third one is "decode as previously" >> and the forth line contains examples of what you would get if you decode >> with another encoding pair (the buttons sais "show"). It is a little bit >> slow at times, but has a better "toolkit" which allows to decode anyway. >> Two more notes: if one tries to decode a whole tiddler, he or she should be >> aware that in the resulting text he'll get "<>" instead of each instance of >> macro ("<<...>>"); and that for multiline content it's necessary to track >> extra spacebars in the ends of lines (which appear and which can break >> tables etc). >> >> Second, I've redone the testing (with the files attached previously). I >> found that my TF version was 1.0alpha10. The same tests with TW 1.0alpha12 >> showed no bug. I'll test with other TWs later and report if any problem >> remained. >> >> As for the "Error when including 'zz microrep commons.html':" message, >> it's ok, it sais that the TiddlyWiki that is included by <<include>> macro >> is not actually present. >> >> "TypeError: a.fetchTiddler is not a function" is a more serious issue, I >> got this bug once or twice in FF but can't reproduce it (aside in FF for >> Android, where I don't have many tools for debugging). Further details >> about this bug are welcome in the STP thread [2]. >> >> I forgot to test a TW without STP before updating TF, so can't really be >> sure what is the source of the encoding problem. STP doesn't really do >> anything with encodings and with the saving procedure as a whole, so I >> wouldn't expect it to be the source of the problem.. but in principle it >> can drive some bugs in other engines (TF itself or some more complicated >> chain). >> >> [1] http://www.online-decoder.com/**ru <http://www.online-decoder.com/ru> >> [2] https://groups.google.com/**forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/** >> tiddlywiki/rQz8aDt76vQ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/rQz8aDt76vQ> >> >> пятница, 15 марта 2013 г., 17:47:50 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston >> написал: >>> >>> Hi Yakov >>> >>> Sorry you've been having problems, but delighted you've been able to >>> save your work. It might be useful for others if you could share your >>> experiences of using the online services that you mentioned. >>> >>> I'm having trouble with the file "fet mr copy for brutal test - >>> before.html". When it first opens, I get the message "Error when including >>> 'zz microrep commons.html':", and then many macros failing with the error >>> "TypeError: a.fetchTiddler is not a function". I assume this is the problem >>> with the SharedTiddlersPlugin that Arc reports. Can you share a version of >>> the file that doesn't use STP? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Arc Acorn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> My test setup: TiddlyFox 1.0Alpha11 + FireFox 19 on Windows 7 x64 (sp0) >>>> Using the linked: "fet mr copy for brutal test - before.html" file. >>>> >>>> I had to manual delete the "SharedTiddlersPlugin" before it would let >>>> me make edits, however after that I had no issues making edits and saving >>>> with all the non-Latin characters staying intact. >>>> >>>> You may try uninstalling TiddlyFox and downloading a fresh copy: >>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/**TiddlyFox<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox> >>>> Maybe some how or another you got the older version that had issues of >>>> this nature. >>>> >>>> Even though I had no issues using/saving this TiddlyWiki (2.6.5) you >>>> may still consider updating to 2.7.1: >>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/**x2aBkaFn5A0<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/x2aBkaFn5A0> >>>> To see if it helps fix your problem, as issues of a similar nature are >>>> listed as the major reason for the update. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:56:23 PM UTC-7, Yakov wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with the technical details (of the >>>>> saving process) to understand what do you mean. >>>>> >>>>> This test causes corruption of the whole non-latin content, not just >>>>> of the part which was edited, so I don't understand what do you mean by >>>>> >>>>> > treating all content as UTF-8 encoded and _nothing_ else and don't >>>>> bother to check before decoding or encoding what encoding might already be >>>>> present >>>>> >>>>> The stored (non-edited) content should probably be in UTF-8 as TW >>>>> edited it with its own engines, shouldn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Yakov. >>>>> >>>>> четверг, 14 марта 2013 г., 15:42:59 UTC+4 пользователь Chris Dent >>>>> написал: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Yakov wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Jeremy, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I think I have bad news. Today I edited couple of my TWs >>>>>> (fortunately minor >>>>>> > ones) via FF (with TiddlyFox) and they got badly corrupted. Those >>>>>> wikis >>>>>> > contain text in cyrillics, and seem to be wrongly encoded. >>>>>> Auto-decoding >>>>>> > via some online survice shows that the encoding is partially >>>>>> CP1163, >>>>>> > partially ISO-8859-1 (and sometimes even that is not 100% correct). >>>>>> > Fortunately, I've restored everything via decoding. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not Jeremy, but I have a guess about what's going on. I would guess >>>>>> that both TiddlyWiki and TiddlyFox are predisposed to treating all >>>>>> content as UTF-8 encoded and _nothing_ else and don't bother to >>>>>> check before decoding or encoding what encoding might already be >>>>>> present. >>>>>> >>>>>> TiddlyWeb certainly takes this tactic. It minimizes complexity while >>>>>> maximizing possible character representations. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Chris Dent >>>>>> http://burningchrome.com/ >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tiddlywikide...@googlegroups.**com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeremy Ruston >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >> -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. 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