>
> Re-enabling permissions per TW file isn't really bad, though if I may add
> a small request on this front:
> It would be awesome if there was someway to prevent being asked for
> permission for permalinks.
>

Ouch! Sorry about that, rather a silly bug. I'll fix it and post back as
soon as I can,

Best wishes

Jeremy


> Where as currently and for as long as I've been using TiddlyFire I have to
> allow permissions once for every unique set of permalinks:
> empty.html#MakingLists
> empty.html#MarkUp
> empty.html#jQuery
> empty.html#GettingStarted
> empty.html#MakingLists MarkUp
> empty.html#MakingLists MarkUp jQuery
> empty.html#MakingLists MarkUp jQuery GettingStarted
> empty.html#MarkUp jQuery
> empty.html#MarkUp jQuery GettingStarted
> empty.html#jQuery GettingStarted
>
> At this point my main TW has probably accumulates well into the hundreds
> if not close to a thousand permission grants due to my extensive use of
> permalinks.
>
> Of course at this point I'm use to clicking okay so often when refreshing
> and opening temp links It could though of my rythem if that was changed. XD
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:06:37 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> Hi Arc
>>
>> Thanks, I've uploaded a new version which should fix that extraneous
>> alert.
>>
>> As things stand, users will have to re-enable permissions for each TW
>> that they use at the point that they upgrade Firefox to version 23. I'll
>> have a think about strategies for avoiding that.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Arc Acorn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Firefox 18,19,20,21,22,23 :
>>> On every load/start this window shows up:
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RWnY21JJlc4/UXbqED78A2I/AAAAAAAAAHw/mdBW2pECnCE/s1600/2013-04-23_130731.png>
>>>
>>> Outside of that everything seems to be working like normal. Wikis can
>>> save/export/make backups and the normal permission box only shows it's self
>>> on the first load.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:18:30 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Arc
>>>>
>>>> I've gone ahead and created a new further 1.0alpha14 that uses local
>>>> storage in older versions of Firefox. I'd be grateful if you could give it
>>>> a go and see how you get on,
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Arc
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks once again for your sleuthing. It turns out that the problem is
>>>>> a bug in Mozilla that prevents the preferences API from working correctly
>>>>> on documents loaded from a file URI. Here's the bug:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/**s**how_bug.cgi?id=204285<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204285>
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears it was fixed in Firefox 21, which lines up with your tests.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, frustratingly the current position is:
>>>>>
>>>>> * We have localstorage-based code that works in Firefox up to and
>>>>> including version 22
>>>>> * We have nsIPermissionManager-based code that works in Firefox
>>>>> version 21 and up
>>>>> * The addons.mozilla.org editors require TiddlyFox not to use
>>>>> localstorage in order for new versions to go back in the catalogue
>>>>>
>>>>> The obvious answer is to carry the code for both mechanisms, and
>>>>> switch according to availability. I'm not sure how that strategy will play
>>>>> with the AMO editors, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll continue investigations and report back,
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Arc Acorn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to be working great for 23.0a1, 22.0a2, & 21
>>>>>> Tested on 32x & 64x Windows builds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It dose however seam to break support for older Firefox builds: Not
>>>>>> working on Windows 32x builds for 20,19, &18 (probably more I just have
>>>>>> these 3 handy).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2013 8:53:23 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Arc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It turns out that 23 disables access to local storage from
>>>>>>> extensions, which is how TiddlyFox has been storing it's preferences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've updated TiddlyFox to use the recommended permission API, and it
>>>>>>> seems to work for me with 23.0a1. It doesn't attempt to transfer any
>>>>>>> permissions already in local storage, so you will have to re-approve 
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> file that you use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Download the new version from:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/******TiddlyFox/raw/master/**tiddlyfox
>>>>>>> ****.xpi<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it looks like it's working I'll submit it to the Mozilla Add-ons
>>>>>>> site, which will cause it to be autoupdated for most people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Arc, I've downloaded Firefox 23.0a1 on OS X and I'm
>>>>>>>> experiencing the same behaviour. I'll investigate further and post back
>>>>>>>> here,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Arc Acorn <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I realize things having to do with nightly builds are always a bit
>>>>>>>>> iffy, but I figure'd I would report that TiddlyFox is no longer 
>>>>>>>>> working as
>>>>>>>>> of the Firefox 23.0a1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When trying to save I get the generic "not possible to save
>>>>>>>>> changes" notice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45:44 PM UTC-7, Yakov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeremy and Arc,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> today I encountered one more corruption, of a big TW (took hell
>>>>>>>>>> of time to recover), so today is the time to dig this more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First, the online services. Well, they can be easily found by
>>>>>>>>>> googling smth like "decode text online".. well, I've done this in 
>>>>>>>>>> russian
>>>>>>>>>> and hence used russian services, but to give an example, I'll say 
>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>> one which worked well is [1]. It is quite straight-forward, the first
>>>>>>>>>> button under the text area is "fit the encoding", the next one is to 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> used if you know how the text is actually encoded, the third one is 
>>>>>>>>>> "decode
>>>>>>>>>> as previously" and the forth line contains examples of what you 
>>>>>>>>>> would get
>>>>>>>>>> if you decode with another encoding pair (the buttons sais "show"). 
>>>>>>>>>> It is a
>>>>>>>>>> little bit slow at times, but has a better "toolkit" which allows to 
>>>>>>>>>> decode
>>>>>>>>>> anyway. Two more notes: if one tries to decode a whole tiddler, he 
>>>>>>>>>> or she
>>>>>>>>>> should be aware that in the resulting text he'll get "<>" instead of 
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> instance of macro ("<<...>>"); and that for multiline content it's
>>>>>>>>>> necessary to track extra spacebars in the ends of lines (which 
>>>>>>>>>> appear and
>>>>>>>>>> which can break tables etc).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second, I've redone the testing (with the files attached
>>>>>>>>>> previously). I found that my TF version was 1.0alpha10. The same 
>>>>>>>>>> tests with
>>>>>>>>>> TW 1.0alpha12 showed no bug. I'll test with other TWs later and 
>>>>>>>>>> report if
>>>>>>>>>> any problem remained.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for the "Error when including 'zz microrep commons.html':"
>>>>>>>>>> message, it's ok, it sais that the TiddlyWiki that is included by
>>>>>>>>>> <<include>> macro is not actually present.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "TypeError: a.fetchTiddler is not a function" is a more serious
>>>>>>>>>> issue, I got this bug once or twice in FF but can't reproduce it 
>>>>>>>>>> (aside in
>>>>>>>>>> FF for Android, where I don't have many tools for debugging). Further
>>>>>>>>>> details about this bug are welcome in the STP thread [2].
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to test a TW without STP before updating TF, so can't
>>>>>>>>>> really be sure what is the source of the encoding problem. STP 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> really do anything with encodings and with the saving procedure as a 
>>>>>>>>>> whole,
>>>>>>>>>> so I wouldn't expect it to be the source of the problem.. but in 
>>>>>>>>>> principle
>>>>>>>>>> it can drive some bugs in other engines (TF itself or some more 
>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>> chain).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.online-decoder.com/********ru<http://www.online-decoder.com/ru>
>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://groups.google.com/**foru******m/?fromgroups=#!topic/*
>>>>>>>>>> *tiddlywi******ki/rQz8aDt76vQ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/rQz8aDt76vQ>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> пятница, 15 марта 2013 г., 17:47:50 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>> Ruston написал:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Yakov
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry you've been having problems, but delighted you've been
>>>>>>>>>>> able to save your work. It might be useful for others if you could 
>>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>> your experiences of using the online services that you mentioned.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having trouble with the file "fet mr copy for brutal test -
>>>>>>>>>>> before.html". When it first opens, I get the message "Error when 
>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>> 'zz microrep commons.html':", and then many macros failing with the 
>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>> "TypeError: a.fetchTiddler is not a function". I assume this is the 
>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>> with the SharedTiddlersPlugin that Arc reports. Can you share a 
>>>>>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>>>>>> the file that doesn't use STP?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Arc Acorn 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My test setup: TiddlyFox 1.0Alpha11 + FireFox 19 on Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>>> x64 (sp0)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using the linked: "fet mr copy for brutal test - before.html"
>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to manual delete the "SharedTiddlersPlugin" before it
>>>>>>>>>>>> would let me make edits, however after that I had no issues making 
>>>>>>>>>>>> edits
>>>>>>>>>>>> and saving with all the non-Latin characters staying intact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You may try uninstalling TiddlyFox and downloading a fresh copy:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/********TiddlyFox<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Maybe some how or another you got the older version that had
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues of this nature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though I had no issues using/saving this TiddlyWiki
>>>>>>>>>>>> (2.6.5) you may still consider updating to 2.7.1:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**foru******m/#!topic/tiddlywiki/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> x2aBkaFn5******A0<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/x2aBkaFn5A0>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To see if it helps fix your problem, as issues of
>>>>>>>>>>>> a similar nature are listed as the major reason for the update.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:56:23 PM UTC-7, Yakov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with the technical details
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (of the saving process) to understand what do you mean.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This test causes corruption of the whole non-latin content,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not just of the part which was edited, so I don't understand what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  treating all content as UTF-8 encoded and _nothing_ else
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't bother to check before decoding or encoding what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encoding might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already be present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stored (non-edited) content should probably be in UTF-8 as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TW edited it with its own engines, shouldn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yakov.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> четверг, 14 марта 2013 г., 15:42:59 UTC+4 пользователь Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dent написал:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Yakov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Jeremy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I think I have bad news. Today I edited couple of my TWs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (fortunately minor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ones) via FF (with TiddlyFox) and they got badly corrupted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those wikis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > contain text in cyrillics, and seem to be wrongly encoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Auto-decoding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > via some online survice shows that the encoding is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partially CP1163,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > partially ISO-8859-1 (and sometimes even that is not 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Fortunately, I've restored everything via decoding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not Jeremy, but I have a guess about what's going on. I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that both TiddlyWiki and TiddlyFox are predisposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content as UTF-8 encoded and _nothing_ else and don't bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check before decoding or encoding what encoding might already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWeb certainly takes this tactic. It minimizes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complexity while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximizing possible character representations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Dent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://burningchrome.com/
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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