I think it should also be pointed out that upstream Xorg uses autotools, and we're tracking their stuff more closely these days.
I hate autotools as much as anyone else, but unfortunately I think we're stuck with it. Regards, George On Thursday 16 April 2009 08:05:59 Peter Åstrand wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, DRC wrote: > >> If we once decided that we will use autotools we should not completely > >> rewrite our build system every year because something _might_ be > >> better. Next argument is that noone of developers know scons, I think. > > > > Well, I didn't know AutoTools prior to 3 weeks ago either, but I knew it > > But 3 of 4 core developers did, so we could assist you. No-one of use have > experience with CMake or SCons, as far as I understand. > > > advantageous on Unix, such as the fact that Xorg uses it. However, I am > > very much a proponent of using a toolchain on Windows that does not > > require Cygwin. There is currently no way to use AutoConf/AutoMake on > > Windows without the Cygwin toolchain. > > You keep saying that, but I don't understand why. I just tried installing > MinGW + MSYS + MSYS DTK on my Vista machine and now I have the full > Autotools toolchain, without Cygwin. The installation only took a few > minutes. > > > It would make sense to me to switch to another build system on Windows, > > even if we don't switch on Unix. > > Having to maintain two different build systems would really be a pain. > > > AutoConf/AutoMake is simply not an accepted way of building software > > among Windows developers. > > I haven't seen any indications of this. If we should use MinGW (seems to > be a strong consensus about that), then it should be trivial for Windows > developers to install MSYS as well. The download is actually on the same > page where you download MinGW. > > My suggestion is that we try MinGW + MSYS on Windows; we haven't done that > yet. If it turns out that this causes a lot of problems an unhappy > developers, then we can reconsider. > > > Best regards, > --- > Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio AB http://www.cendio.com > Wallenbergs gata 4 > 583 30 Linköping Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 -- George Wright, http://www.gwright.org.uk
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