Hi,
Comparing a reference signal at 162kHz with local 10MHz ocxo. Expected Adev 
10E-11 at 10sec.
162kHz / 81 = 2kHz = 10MHz / 5000
GC

> Le 21 juin 2020 à 05:49, Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> Hi
> 
> *Any* divide approach followed by a flip flop clocked by the input clock will 
> meet
> that same basic requirement. While it *sounds* like it would improve things, 
> it 
> very much depends on the details.
> 
> What are you trying to do? What is the input frequency? What is the phase 
> noise 
> requirement?
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Gilles Clement <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> You are right, its the lambda divider that was discussed. Need to better 
>> understand this approach....
>> 74HC40103 could also do the 81 Pi-divide easily,  but I tend to prefer the 
>> PICDIV concept where the controller is clocked by the signal to divide (So 
>> limited or no noise is  added). AVR family could do it, as most of the 
>> instructions take only one clock.
>> Gilles.
>> 
>> 
>>>> Le 20 juin 2020 à 19:48, Robert LaJeunesse <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Gilles, if I read the Calosso-Rubiola paper correctly a Pi divider is 
>>> pretty much your standard square-wave producing digital divider, such as a 
>>> 74163 (for even divides). There's odd-value (3,5,7) Pi dividers shown at 
>>> https://www.theremin.us/Circuit_Library/symmetrical_digital_dividers.html. 
>>> What the Calosso-Rubiola paper promotes is the Lambda divider, which is 
>>> depicted in figure 2 of the paper.
>>> 
>>> Bob L. 
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM
>>>> From: "Gilles Clement" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency division by 81
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, 
>>>> Could you point me to a practical design example of a Pi divider ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Envoyé de mon iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 19 juin 2020 à 08:56, Poul-Henning Kamp <[email protected]> a écrit 
>>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> --------
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I need to divide the output of an OCXO by a factor D=81 for testing 
>>>>>> purposes. So with minimum added phase noise.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Two stages of divide by 9 PI-dividers ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://rubiola.org/pdf-articles/conference/2013-ifcs-Frequency-dividers.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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