>> I hope not. That kind of subtrefuge ["transparent proxies"] breaks >> things very badly in my experience. > It is already used all over the place for much more complex things > than something as trivial as serving time
I know. > and NO, it doesn't break things as I have demonstrated on this list > before. I can re-post if you want. Perhaps it hasn't broken things for you. It has for me - most notably, it makes certain kinds of debugging damn near impossible. >>> [...] >> Death of volunteerism, again. *Some* of us are here because we >> simply want to help others, for its own sake. > [...] I regret the good old days too, but things change you know ;-) My point was that volunteerism *isn't* dead, in contrast to the impression some people apparently have that it is. >>> It is a pity that ISPs rely on guys like pool members to provide >>> this service to their customers when it is their responsibility. >> How is it their responsibility? [...] > That would be REAL volunteerism then, how can you be against > corporate volunteerism for a good cause ;-) I'm not. I'm against the idea that they have a _responsibility_ to "volunteer" (of course, if there's a responsibility, it's not truly volunteering). >>> If done right, the cost would be ridiculous for ISPs so it wouldn't >>> affect the price they charge for their services. >> Have you ever worked at an ISP? I have - I work at one now - and, >> based on my own experience, you appear to have an unrealistic model >> of an ISP's costs. > ISP saves money in bandwidth by catching outgoing connection and > ridirecting them to their own servers, True as far as it goes. But for NTP the bandwidth cost is miniscule; it's dwarfed by the costs (largely staff time) of setting up and maintaining the service (and, if not run on the same host as something else, the server). /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ timekeepers mailing list [email protected] https://fortytwo.ch/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/timekeepers
