Interesting, Stephen.

Let's see--the initial question is which group (seniors or others) have
the highest accident rates. The answer is that seniors are safer drivers.
Let's try an analogy to that one:

Serial killers are:

a. Less likely to be considered murderers than other killers.
b. Have a 10% higher murder rate than non-serial killers.
c. Have a 25% higher murder rate than non-serial killers.
d. Have a 50% higher murder rate than non-serial killers.
e) Are exceeded in murder rate only by absolute dictators.

If the analogy is correct, "a" is the right answer. And that happens to be
true. Serial killers ARE less likely to be considered murderers. They are
less seldom arrested or convicted because they have no known motive or
relationship to the victim and often have higher than normal intelligence
and educations. And if one is not even arrested for a crime, one is
certainly not considered to have committed it!

Does that mean that a serial killer is less likely to kill people than a
non-serial killer? Of course not, that's absurd!

Now let's look at your data.

Are seniors likely to: "a. Drive as safely or more safely than any other
age group?"

Sure.

Any study will demonstrate that seniors drive more slowly, come to
complete stops at lights (sometimes green, usually red), use turn signals,
and drive at substantially lower speeds. But does that mean that they are
_responsible_ for less accidents or merely that they are not _involved_ in
as many accidents?

Driving well below the speed limit (very common among seniors) will reduce
the likelihood that an individual will be involved in a serious accident.
Try it yourself. Get on the freeway and drive at 40 MPH (64 KPH). You
won't be as likely to hit anyone. You will also be passed by every driver
who comes up behind you. No problem, there are multiple lanes for that to
occur. Now do the same thing on a winding rural road. The same result will
occur--only those passing you will not have a dedicated lane to do so,
they will be on the opposite side of the road and will be far more likely
to be involved in an accident. Was that your fault? Of course not, YOU
were driving safely, right?

Coming to a complete stop at a green light will prevent you from ever
being hit from the side by someone running a red light. That's a good
thing and increases your likelihood of not being involved in an accident.
Try it.

Seniors often can see better--not worse--than others on the road at night.
Why? Because they far less often dim their headlights when a car is
approaching, and thus have more visible light to use in viewing the road.
That one is a good thing too, right?

Seniors, except in their own areas (where they know the roads well from
experience), seldom drive on secondary roads if a major highway is
available. That means they are more likely to drive on roads that are
safer--even if their own habits tend to reduce the safety for others.

Seniors tend to drive less miles, drive less often under poor traffic
conditions (if you are retired you don't have to drive to a job site in
bad weather), drive larger vehicles with more resistance to damage in an
accident (try hitting a Cadillac with a GEO and see which one has the most
damage), and ignore the responses of other drivers who may urge them to
speed up or pull over, etc. (all less safe activities than simply driving
at a constant pace). Seniors also tend to under-report their accidents to
avoid both insurance increases and required re-testing of their driving
skills or vision--which many fear they would not pass.

Much of the data for your "test" is based on newspaper reports, not
research. If we are to accept that data as a legitimate source of
scientific determination that a fact is true, we must do so in cases other
than senior driving alone. Therefore:

* Elvis is alive. He has been seen in more public places in recent years
(according to the largest circulation news weekly in the United
States--the Weekly World News) than has Celine Dion.

* There are yeti and space aliens living in the Himalayas--both under the
control of ascended spirit masters.

* If the liberal politicians in the United States succeed in implementing
universal health care for all citizens, the level of medical care received
by individuals will drop below that of third world nations, as is the case
in Canada today.

* College professors live in an "ivory tower" world where abstract
concepts replace facts and any conception of the real concerns of
individuals living a day to day life is completely absent.

* There have been over 100,000 alien abductions in the US alone in the
last 20 years; the USAF is still hiding the existence of the bodies of
crashed space aliens; the US has a 'doomsday' bomb planted somewhere in
Wyoming that, if exploded, will cause a shock wave that will crack the
planet in half and is the real reason the USSR never attacked the US; AIDS
will kill more Americans in 2010 than all other diseases combined (but
will be cured in 2009); an artificial brain will be available by 2025 and
will allow an individual to have his or her memories and personality
transferred to it instantly, providing the basis for an android body that
can replace the human body and last 200 years without damage (but by then
life extension will allow humans to live to be 500 anyway).

* Marijuana is a gateway drug; if you smoke it you WILL use heroin (which
will addict you instantly); people who use PCP can feel no pain, they have
even run long distances with a compound fracture of the leg (let's see you
STAND with one, let a lone run--think "knee meets hip"); pot smokers have
to steal and deal hard drugs to support their "marijuana addiction."

ALL of these are statements that appear in the press (some in mainstream
sources at least as "reliable" as those cited in the UK), thus if the
"study" you cite is valid and should be accepted by us, so should these
statements.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .

Are you sure it's your STUDENTS who should get an "F" if they chose to
question your test?

Rick


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Crash test

I asked:

Drivers of age 65 or older:

a) drive as safely or more safely than any other age group
b) have a 10% higher accident rate than any other age group
c) have a 25% higher accident rate than any other age group
d) have a 50% higher accident rate than any other age group
e) are exceeded in accident rate only by the youngest (under age 21)
  drivers

You sent me 18 replies. Unfortunately, only a mere 4 or 22% of the
responses had the correct answer, which was (a). I therefore regret to
inform most of you that you are crash test dummies, which, as Dave Barry
is fond of saying, would be a great name for a rock band. For those with
the correct answer, you should be proud!

I must also protest the unfortunate tone of some of your remarks. I've
been told that the answer "would depend" (Chris Green), that the test was
"no fair" (Lenore Frigo), that I was "mean" (Tim Shearon), that there was
"a catch" (David Campbell), that I needed to "define [my] terms"  and had
"something up my sleeve" (David Epstein), and that "it might be a trick
question" (Miguel Roig). Honestly, do your students give you such grief?
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. And I must remind you that there are no
trick questions, only trick answers.

Further to the data, a disturbing 33% of you were unclear on the
requirements of answering a multiple-choice question and provided either
no response or more than one. Do I have to remind you that this is a
forced-choice procedure, and if you don't choose one and only one
response, you get zero? And Annette, didn't I say "no googling?" How are
you going to get anywhere in education if you won't follow simple
instructions? Fortunately, your googling led you into error, which serves
you right. 

The results summary:

 Based on all responses (n = 18)

a) = 22%
b) = 0%
c) = 0%
d) = 6%
e) = 39%
other = 33%

Omitting "other' responses (n = 12), which richly deserve their zero:

a) = 33%
b) = 0%
c) = 0%
d) = 8%
e) = 58%

My justification. We've all seen the news reports of elderly people
plowing into pedestrians (there was a bad case in Los Angeles last year,
and another in Montreal), and these are inevitably followed by calls for
getting old folks off the road. So I was surprised to discover  t'aint
necessarily so. My source is the authoritative British Medical Journal
("Are the media running elderly drivers off the road?", 2005, 330: 368
(February 12). 

Unfortunately, I see that I've just been caught by the new and regrettable
policy of BMJ to restrict access after one week, so I can't sent you there
as I was intending to. I guess I'll just have to copy it out for you by
hand. Bother! And please remember that I know nothing about this matter
beyond what it says in the article. Don't shoot the messenger.

Stephen
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