Louis:
At the risk of also entering this discussion more than I want to (that is, at all, really), I want to implore you to self-analyze for a moment in the same way that you challenge your students and colleagues to do. Look at the tone of your message. Do you see how if someone sent it to you it would appear sanctimonious? You fire bullets and then assume martyr status when people fire back. If you softened your tone and saw the wisdom in others' remarks the way you do with your students you'd draw more converts. If you're looking to create change you will see that and do so. If you merely wish to "stir it up" without really affecting change, then continue as is.
(and stepping back into the educational good night)
David

At 03:58 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote:
See Paul, you fall short again in your care and concern about your profession ;-)

From my understanding of psychology (and the ethical principles of APA) and from my own years in counseling (as the client), there is something to be said for understanding and respecting boundaries in both professional and personal relationships.

Go ahead if you must, tell me (and our professional ethics committee) why this attitude is inferior to yours Louis.

Having a great day,
-S

On Mar 21, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Louis Schmier wrote:

So, Paul, you just accept the very issues I have been talking about for years? To paraphrase Edmund Burke, it declines because good people remain silent. I guess that's the difference between us. I don't accept it and won't remain silent. Maybe that's why some are irritated with me. Don't know. What I do know is that I'm a "There is the teaching" guy and I don't accept as I once did "then there is teaching." If in your opinion that be self-delusional, "egregiously inappropriate," so be it. I for one just
won't go quietly into the educational good night.


Make it a good day.
      --Louis--


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