Quick comment about the power thing since it's come up in a couple of 
posts now. Nearly all devices support a "discrete on" and "discrete off" 
code as well as a "toggle power" code. So the trick is to tell your 
remote about these. That way when it wants to turn something ON it sends 
an ON code, not a TOGGLE POWER code. If the device is already on, then 
nothing happens.

The basic rule of activity-based remotes being poor choices for people 
who use manual controls still holds, though.

If anyone is interested in learning more about remotes, there's a *ton* 
of information over at <http://www.remotecentral.com/>.

- Jeff


On 11/14/2008 3:57 PM, Glen Farney wrote:
> 
> 
> I got the 520, it's ok, but not as good as I thought it would be.
> 
> I concur though that you need to hide all the other remotes, and never 
> touch
> a power button on the device. The reason is the remote remembers the
> current state of the device it controls, that is if the power is on or off,
> which input, and so forth. So, if you're watching TV, and use a separate
> receiver, when you turn the power on, it turns both on, and off, again, 
> same
> thing. However, if you had the stereo on manually, and then tried to watch
> TV, it would turn the stereo off. It gives you ways to fix it, but now it's
> no longer convenient, just annoying.
> 
> Also, regards to Tivo, the buttons are not as well laid out, and there is a
> noticeable pause or delay between pushing the button and the actual signal
> being sent, which throws my timing all out of whack when it comes to fast
> forwarding through commercials. Also, since it lacks the Tivo specific
> buttons, you have to program those into other buttons that may say 
> something
> else, so anyone who's not quick to pick up on little things like that won't
> have a good time of it.
> 
> I got one as a backup to my Sony S1 remote, which are almost impossible to
> find, used ones often go for $75 or more on ebay, and of course if you 
> loose
> the remote, you got nothing with a tivo, so I got the Harmony as a backup,
> just in case the remote quit or got lost.
> 
> Otherwise, it can do a nice job of turning on the power to the correct
> devices, setting the inputs and options properly, and being ready to do 
> what
> ever it was you wanted to do. Set up is not difficult, but it's tedious,
> since you can program individual keystrokes for various functions (like 
> "now
> playing" is "tivo-tivo").
> 
> Glen
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jersully%40yahoo.com>>
> To: <[email protected] <mailto:tivocentral%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:02 PM
> Subject: [TiVo Central] Logitech Harmony
> 
> I want to buy a Logitech Harmony remote but I'm unsure of which one. Any
> thoughts from you guys, especially as pertains to TiVo?
> 
> Other devices:
> Onkyo receiver
> Samsung DVD
> Insignia LCD
> Sony CD
> Secondary Sony receiver
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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