Could the chairs please ask the participants to continue this thread on another 
more suitable mailing list?

This is NOT what I subscribe to the TLS list for

Cheers,
John

From: Lloyd W <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 11 October 2025 at 15:24
To: D. J. Bernstein <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [TLS] Re: Form of Appeals (Re: Complaint to IAB regarding 
non-transparency)
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On 11 Oct 2025, at 19:53, D. J. Bernstein <[email protected]> wrote:
IESG's entire rationale for saying that my complaint wasn't "valid" is
one sliver from your list of excuses: it boils down to the fact that at
that point I wasn't using the IETF-approved text for opting out of
IETF's copyright grab. This isn't my fault---it's not as if IETF warns
participants about the copyright grab in the first place, never mind the
buried opt-out text.

https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

and BCP 78 are cited by the chairs in their introductory slides to every 
workgroup meeting, so that all participants are aware of the position on 
copyright.

but you don't  participate in the meetings, do you?

I think your continued comments would be more convincing if they were more 
truthful.

And shorter. Much shorter.

Lloyd Wood
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