On 10/14/25 8:40 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 7:16 AM Peter Gutmann wrote: [Just replying to an existing post, if it's off-topic I can take it elsewhere if there's a more suitable forum] Lloyd W <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> writes: >In my previous reply I mentioned the Note Well slides presented by WG meeting >chairs ... at pay-to-play meetings that exclude anyone who isn't generously funded by their employer to attend, which means around 97% of the people who participate in the IETF via mailing lists. This simply isn't correct. Remote participation at IETF meetings is cheap ($264 for the week at the cheapest rate) and remote fee waivers are available upon request:https://www.ietf.org/meeting/registration-fee-waivers/ <https:// www.ietf.org/meeting/registration-fee-waivers/>
Not only that, they are all free online. I use YouTube [0], and I think MeetEcho has them too.
You only need to attend if you feel a need to interject during the meeting, or you value the "hallway track". It may be that the ship will sail during the meeting in practice, and your objection will be lost. In those cases, I find that it's usually not worth bickering, and that an in-person presence would not help your case anyway.
Most of the time, the IETF is slower than that. You can just watch the videos (and fast-forward the parts you don't care about).
Every single video has the "Note Well" at the start, so you would know about those even as a passive YouTube viewer. Or, in the case of the TLS WG, a regular monthly reminder [1].
thanks, Rob [0] https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/wSdywpIRyLpuWbePUqQ6T5cDj7M/ _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
