On 14 Oct 2025, at 16:15, Peter Gutmann 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> ... at pay-to-play meetings that exclude anyone who isn't generously funded by
> their employer to attend, which means around 97% of the people who participate
> in the IETF via mailing lists.

https://www.ietf.org/about/introduction/

I think that anyone who wants to participate in the IETF at the level of 
submitting an appeal to a decision but can't be bothered to read the 
Introduction to the IETF or the Getting Started at the IETF web pages should 
expect that their appeal will likely be rejected. It might be a kindness for 
the response to the appeal to include pointers to these important documents. 

However, nobody in this conversation is actually new to the IETF or unaware of 
these resources, so in this case I would say that the omission of this advice 
is understandable and appropriate.

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