>> From: Andrew Lee <[email protected]>
>> one who literally went head to head with the US government 

> From Livingood, Jason <[email protected]>
> Many people in the IETF have done so

Jason, I question if any people in the IETF have pursued and won TWO
decisions against the United States government, 
arguing over the constitutional right to publish engineering/science. [1]
[2] [3] [4]

I think it is only those who were, like me, publishing cryptographic
software (with full source code) during the First Crypto War, 
and especially prior to 1996, who fully appreciate the tectonic nature of
Judge Patel's decisions.

Respectfully submitted,
Tony Patti

[1] https://cryptosystemsjournal.com/bernstein-decisions.html

[2]
https://www.cryptosystemsjournal.com/bernstein-decisions/CSJ-V4-Bernstein-De
cision-1.pdf
32-page PDF of US District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel's decision of April 15,
1996.
This is the "source code is speech for the purposes of the First Amendment"
ruling, see page 27 of the decision

[3]
https://www.cryptosystemsjournal.com/bernstein-decisions/CSJ-V4-Bernstein-De
cision-2.pdf
41-page PDF of US District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel's decision of December
9, 1996.
Her ruling states: "The ITAR scheme, a paradigm of standardless discretion,
fails on every count. 
This court finds nothing in the ITAR that places even minimal limits on the
discretion of the licensor 
and hence nothing to alleviate the danger of arbitrary or discriminatory
licensing decisions." (see page 20 of the decision)

[4] https://www.eff.org/cases/bernstein-v-us-dept-justice

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