On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:48:15 -0700, "Jason R. Mastaler"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you use qmail, they don't offer any advantages over .qmail files.
> 
> $ cat ~/.qmail-www-default 
> ./Maildir/
> 
> So, I can enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', etc.

I thought about this, and yes, it works just fine, but it's not as
convenient if you ever have to "close the door" on someone.

For example, I signed up for e-mail notification at comics.com in
hopes that they would just mail me the slow loading JPGs/GIFs.
Instead, it turns out they just mail you links, so it doesn't help
any.

I had given them a keyword address.  I tried to unsubscribe but their
crappy site won't let me, so I just put in a

  "to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce"

in my filter.  Problem solved.

Had I been using extensions, then I could add in a
".qmail-www-comics.com" that directs them to the bit bucket.  But
hopefully by bouncing these things, they may eventually remove me from
their list.

I suppose I could set up a general TMDA rule that bounces all www
addresses and then use links to connect .qmail-www-comics back to
.qmail, but that seems kind of weird.

Advantage two, I can keep all of this in a few files instead of one
file for each closed door.

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:13:51 -0800 (PST), David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now that's a great idea... and just the kind of feedback I am looking
> for. So, using my example, I could do [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> make a link for .qmail-amazon-com pointing to my .qmail file. Then if I
> see mail coming in to that address from some other third party, I can
> also tell who distributed my e-mail address.

Yes, you can, but it's cooler than that.  Qmail lets you put in
"-default" as the end of any of these .qmail files to catch general
cases.  In other words, you can set up -default files and continue
issuing email addresses without ever monkeying with it again.

> But what about just using a keyword address instead to create an
> address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for that
> matter, would it even make a difference?

Generally speaking, the effect is the same.

If you go with the ext trick, you simply set up (for example)
.qmail-www-default and you're done.  You can safely give out any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wish without generating a single keyword.

If you use keywords, incoming filtering stays within TMDA.

> I mean what purpose does that
> 6 character crypted code in a keyword address?

The crypto codes are a measure of protection.  For example, suppose
Jason has a .qmail-www-default file that accepts mail.  I could start
spamming [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. and
the only good way he could block me would be to shut down his
.qmail-www-default file.  The wouldn't work if he was using TMDA
because I could never guess the correct crypto codes to put in.

What's the chance this would ever happen?  Very slim.

> Interesting, speaking of tmda-address, it looks like a hyphen in your
> keyword gets turned into a question mark in the new address.

Huh?

> How does
> qmail see that. Is it a legal character? Perhaps better to just use a
> dot instead of a hyphen.

Qmail looks for hyphens specifically and breaks up addresses based on
them (colons too, I think).  This means that ANY Qmail user can create
as many email addresses as s/he need without ever asking for help from
the sysadmin!  Cool, eh?

Gre7g.
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