Hi, Well, I buy Mark's research. What he says is reasonable. But I agree we should move the discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if only to ensure the consensus.
Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics >-----Original Message----- >From: jean-frederic clere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:54 PM >To: Tomcat Developers List >Subject: Re: Fwd: md5 sums for jakarta downloads > >Shapira, Yoav wrote: >> Hi, >> Well, as always, when there's an established practice I'd like a >> stronger reason than "it would probably be good" to change it ;) I see >> what you mean, but I don't know that the GNU md5 is any more prevalent >> than the BSD md5 or vice versa... > >Maven format is the one we should use in Jakarta ;-) > >Probably the discussion must be moved to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that >the >whole jakarta uses the same format and that we write a description of the >format >to use somewhere (if not yet done). > >> >> Yoav Shapira >> Millennium Research Informatics >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mark R. Diggory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:52 AM >>>To: Tomcat Developers List >>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: Fwd: md5 sums for jakarta downloads >>> >>>For example here are the outputs of the various signing tools we use at >>>this time: >>> >>>BSD md5: >>> >>> >>>>md5 commons-collections-3.1.jar >>> >>>MD5 (commons-collections-3.1.jar) = d1dcb0fbee884bb855bb327b8190af36 >>> >>>while the GNU md5 script generates the following: >>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] jars]$ md5sum commons-collections-3.1.jar >>>d1dcb0fbee884bb855bb327b8190af36 commons-collections-3.1.jar >>> >>>And maven just generates and uses: >>>d1dcb0fbee884bb855bb327b8190af36 >>> >>>Yes, the nice thing about BSD md5 is that the -r can be used to make it >>>look like the GNU md5sum output, it would probably be good if we >> >> started >> >>>to use this as it will be more prevalent and possibly is the closest >> >> one >> >>>can get to a standard: >>> >>> >>>>md5 -r commons-collections-3.1.jar >>> >>>d1dcb0fbee884bb855bb327b8190af36 commons-collections-3.1.jar >>> >>> >>>Mark R. Diggory wrote: >>> >>> >>>>This is the md5 output generated by BSD md5 and not necessarily a >>>>"standard", GNU md5sum generates a different format that is not >>>>"standard" as well. For maven, just the checksum portion of the >> >> content >> >>>>is stored in the file. >>>> >>>>It would be nice if there was a standard in this area, but I have yet >> >> to >> >>>>see one in the internet community. We have the same problem with >>>>generating md5 checksums for the maven repository at the moment. >>>> >>>>-Mark >>>> >>>>Shapira, Yoav wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>>The format I use for MD5 sums is the standard one. Every other >> >> project >> >>>>>I know uses this format, so I think if anything this user needs to >>>>>adjust his preferences ;) However, if there's a standard or spec >>>>>somewhere that mandates we use md5 -r (reverse output format), then >>>>>sure, someone point me to it and I'll follow that spec when signing >>>>>releases. >>>>> >>>>>Yoav Shapira >>>>>Millennium Research Informatics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: jean-frederic clere >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:26 AM >>>>>>To: Tomcat Developers List >>>>>>Subject: Re: Fwd: md5 sums for jakarta downloads >>>>>> >>>>>>Pier Fumagalli wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>From: Andy Mudrak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>Date: 10 August 2004 00:57:44 BST >>>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>Subject: md5 sums for jakarta downloads >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I noticed that your MD5 sums on your website are not all >> >> formatted >> >>>>>>>>correctly. I specifically downloaded the Tomcat 5.0.27 MD5 file, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>found this out. Not that it's a big deal or anything like that, >> >> but >> >>>>>>>>it'd be good to have the MD5 properly formatted, that is the MD5 >> >> sum >> >>>>>>>>and then the file name... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I am not sure that is a good idea: >>>>>>+++ >>>>>>-bash-2.05b$ openssl md5 toto >>>>>>MD5(toto)= efd6b079984c77cd80254ff266e9ab43 >>>>>>+++ >>>>>> >>>>>>And looking in the Jakarta "Binary downloads" I have found that a >> >> lot >> >>>>> >>>>>of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>other >>>>>>MD5 file are using the Tomcat format. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Andy Mudrak >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Mark Diggory >>>Software Developer >>>Harvard MIT Data Center >>>http://www.hmdc.harvard.edu >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business >communication, and may contain information that is confidential, >proprietary and/or privileged. 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