Shapira, Yoav wrote:

Howdy,
The HTML GUI you refer to is for the Admin webapp, not the Manager webapp I was referring to.


????? The one I am refering to is titled "Tomcat Web Application Manager" It lists the currently running Applicatons and allows you to manage them.. I'm afraid your statment is confusing in that there are two "Administration" applications listed in the /index.jsp I speaking of the one listed as "Tomcat Manager" not the one listed as "Tomcat Administration" (that one crashes a lot.. and is nearly useless..)

Please clarify...??

John...

I agree the documentation for both is not as complete and clear as it could be. Bluntly put, I don't care enough about this to spend bandwidth on it. However, I am glad to receive feedback like yours and glad you spent time researching it. If you could take the existing Manager webapp, enhance it to include your findings, and send an updated version to the list, it would be much appreciated and eventually will likely find its way to the official site documentation.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

-----Original Message-----
From: John B. Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: New user


Yoav or whomever...,

If I may intrude on this thread... I did read the HowTo at

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/manager-howto.html

..and it's primary focus is on the nature of the commands sent to the manager. There is no reference as to the HTML GUI that is used by most new users and general administrators. In that interface there is no indication as to the exact syntax needed to "install". The HowTo should provide a good and specific examples. This would avoid a lot of confusion (maybe questions here). I personally spend nearly an hour testing different inputs to the "install" fields with no luck

 There are three fields
   Path, Config URL, and WAR URL

...of those only Path and WAR URL seem to have any reference in the HowTo.. I can find nothing on this "Config URL" and what that might mean nor does this term exist, so how is one to guess what this field requires..??? Ignoring that field and taking a hint from the HowTo I input various "paths" and "WAR URL"s that I thought should work.. Using
http://localhost:8080/manager/install?path=/bar&war=jar:file:/path/to/bar.war!/



as a reference point and assuming I have a WAR file named "DurlingSite.war" sitting in the webapps directory, I entered the following:


In the Path field: /DurlingSite
In the WAR URL field: jar:file:/usr/local/tomcat4/webapps/DurlingSite.war!/


This did not work.. I then tried various variations check my spelling, typos..etc.... no joy..

So... given that I have a WAR file "DurlingSite.war" siting in the directory /usr/local/tomcat4/webapps. How would you input the required "install" fields in the Manager HTML interface. (and have it work..<G>)

Thanks...

John Moore

PS. Also as a side issue.. it appears that "Remove" does ot work.. it does not remove a webapp and all of it's files as the HowTo indicates..???? Why is this...??


Shapira, Yoav wrote:


Howdy,
Apparently you didn't bother to read the manager webapp documentation I
posted in the previous reply ;(  In that URL it tells you how to deploy
a new webapp or redeploy an existing one without restarting the server.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New user


No file2.war is a brand new Web application. When you start the tomcat
it
will create file2 and all the proper directory under file2. I don't
want to
affect user which are using the Web application under file by stopping
the
Tomcat and restarting Tomcat. Basically I want to deploy file2.war
which is
a new web application without interrupting users which are using the
Web
application under file.


Hope I made it a little more clear.

Thanks Amir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:06 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: New user



Howdy,
I'm not sure what you mean by "for relapse."  If file2.war is supposed
to replace file.war, it should have the same name.  See the Manager app
documentation at
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/manager-howto.html for
ways to re-deploy an application without restarting the server.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New user


Thanks.

Also another question. When I deploy may Java codes I do the
following.
I copy my file.war to tomcat/webapps directory and start the tomcat
and
that is all I have to do. Tomcat will unwar the file and will take
care
of
the rest.
If I am in production and have another file2.war for relapse do I have
to
stop the Tomcat and start it again or is there any other way I can
unwar
file2.war?


Amir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: New user



Howdy,
If it's support (paid) for tomcat you want, just do a google search
for
"consulting for tomcat" and you'll find many people who can help you.


Personally, I don't think anything they provide is better than what
you
can get on this list, if:
- You observe basic netiquette recommendations
- Are family with basic java and servlets technology
- Are patient and willing to understand solutions and designs


But that's just me $0.02USD

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New user


Hello All,

I am a new user.

we are developing some new Web application. We want to use
TomCat/Apache as
our server.


I need to get some feed back regarding TomCat/Apache stability and
support.
I know this is a free software but I am reluctance to go into
production
without support.


Any feed back appreciated.

Thanks

Amir Shidfar
VeriZon Wireless
845-365-7386 work
845-365-5910 fax
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