One more thing …

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/__95.html 
<http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/__95.html>

The law says: 

(4) Der Diensteanbieter kann im Zusammenhang mit dem Begründen und dem Ändern 
des Vertragsverhältnisses sowie dem Erbringen von Telekommunikationsdiensten 
die Vorlage eines amtlichen Ausweises verlangen, wenn dies zur Überprüfung der 
Angaben des Teilnehmers erforderlich ist. 

We have a german law that explicit states that an ISP can demand a copy of your 
passport. 

But surely its highly illegal besides the law explicit allows it … whatever … 

Markus

> On 8. Dec 2017, at 13:24, niftybunny <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 10:23, Alexander Dietrich <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no experience with Hetzner, but no ISP in Germany (or elsewhere) has 
>> ever asked me for a copy of my passport. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
>> 
>> (For German readers: it's illegal to create photocopies of the latest 
>> generation of ID cards, except for government agencies, banks and such, 
>> AFAIK.
>> 
> No its is not and its normal with banks, ISPs,  web hosting etc 
> 
> proof: 
> https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf
>  
> <https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf>
> 
> Look it up and stop starting rumours …
> 
> Markus
> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Alexander
>> 
>> ---
>> PGP Key: https://dietrich.cx/pgp <https://dietrich.cx/pgp> | 
>> 0x52FA4EE1722D54EB
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-12-08 02:46, niftybunny wrote:
>> 
>>> I do not think they will compromise and this is "normal" behaviour for a 
>>> ISP from Europe. Online.net <http://online.net/> is cheap, fast and has 
>>> good support. I would send them what they demanded. In Germany you have to 
>>> send them a copy of your passport before they even get you a server. Got 
>>> this with Hetzner. So, nothing to worry about.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Markus
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:41, Tanous <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Markus, I'll ask them if there is another way to unlock my account.
>>>> In this situations i'm never certain if I have been hacked or something...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tanous
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my 
>>>> identity card
>>>> Local Time: December 7, 2017 11:26 PM
>>>> UTC Time: December 8, 2017 1:26 AM
>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>  
>>>> Same happened here. Sent them their stuff they demanded and 2 days later 
>>>> my account was restored and they are "fine" with abuse. 
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>> Markus
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:24, Tanous <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> it is Online.net <http://online.net/>.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
>>>>>  
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my 
>>>>> identity card
>>>>> Local Time: December 7, 2017 10:57 PM
>>>>> UTC Time: December 8, 2017 12:57 AM
>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>  
>>>>> DigitalOcean demanded access to my FaceBook and Twitter account for 
>>>>> verification ...
>>>>> I do not own a Twitter or Facebook account ...
>>>>>  
>>>>> Which ISP is it?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 01:54, Tanous [email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Im running an exit relay for 116 days. Today i received an email from my 
>>>>>> ISP saying that my account has been locked for security reasons.
>>>>>> They asked me to send a copy of my identity card and a selfie holding 
>>>>>> it. I found that very odd and i feel uncomfortable sending that data to 
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Should i give up to running my exit relay and find another ISP?
>>>>>> By the way, i had received an abuse complaint a day before, due to Brute 
>>>>>> force attempts.
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Tanous
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