erland;566226 Wrote: > Are you sure it would annoy people ? Yes, I am sure. (Hint: it doesn't have to be 'most' people.)
> > It would definitively annoy people if you needed the Touch to be > playing to be able to play music on the Radio in the kitchen but would > it annoy them if the Touch would just have to be on ? > > What if turning off the Touch would shutdown SBS and unmount the USB > drive, but still leave the other parts active. So a user can basically > just hit the power button and know that it's safe to disconnect the USB > drive afterwards ? > That's not what the person I replied to asked for: he wanted -conpletely- off. Zero power. That is plain and simple impossible without a physical switch. > > The Touch would still be active but this would make it really easy for > non technical users to understand when it's safe to disconnect the USB > drive. Also, the Touch would still be alive even though it's built-in > server wouldn't, so when you navigate into My Music on the Kitchen > Radio it would automatically turn on the Touch, mount the drive and > start the built-in server in the Touch. > Then it wouldn't be off, would it? It would at the very least be using WOL, or if wireless, it would be awake with the display off. that isn't off. > > Wouldn't something like that be easier for people to understand ? > That's not off.... and not what was asked for. > > My thoughts are: > 1. > It has to be simple how to disconnect a USB drive and we can't expect > people to format USB drive with Ext3 as long as Ext3 isn't supported by > the Windows formatting tools. It's not a problem if it works better with > Ext3 but it has too work good enough with a Windows formatted drive and > you shouldn't have to worry about loosing data on the drive. > There is a menu option to do just that: turning it into some quasi off state and believing it is then ok to detach a USB drive would lead people to forget that the drive is still being read by some other player... You would have to bring up a dialog box: "I am not turning off: the Kitchen player is still attached... " > > 2. > It's important that any device can go into a low power mode when it > isn't used, people worry about power usage for environmental reasons > today and we need to consider this if we like to keep living on this > planet in the future. There might be other kind of devices that are > bigger problems but just ignoring it isn't a good idea. > The power difference between on and off on the touch is not significant: the difference is the display power. Again: to be off, you need a physical switch There is no way around that. A $5 power strip will give you that. Various 'sleep' modes won't work. (Ie, other players, "wake on wireless" doesn't exist... and one more thing... but that's at the end.) > > 3. > The Touch might be serving other players, due to this it needs to be > possible to turn it on remotely without standing beside the Touch. > People that want to play music in their bedroom in the morning doesn't > want to be forced to get up and walk into the living room and push a > power button on the Touch to be able to start playing music on their > Radio in the bedroom. And how do you propose to do that if the Touch is wireless? Even if it is WOL, it will be 'on' and still drawing virtuallly the same power. And the one I was saving: if it is off and you want the player in the bedroom to play your favorite playlist at 6:00am... how will it do that when it is off? -- snarlydwarf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 _______________________________________________ Touch mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
