snarlydwarf;566231 Wrote:
>
> That's not what the person I replied to asked for: he wanted
> -conpletely- off. Zero power.
>
> That is plain and simple impossible without a physical switch.
>
I completely agree, if you want -completely off-, just get a power
strip with a physical switch or similar solution.
snarlydwarf;566231 Wrote:
>
> The power difference between on and off on the touch is not
> significant: the difference is the display power.
>
Ok, I thought it was the hard drive of the attached USB that caused
most power usage or the WiFi circuits if WiFi is used. If it's the
display, we just need a off screen saver that turns off the display
into low power mode. If I remember correctly there is a "Screen off"
screen saver but I'm not sure if it decreases the power usage.
snarlydwarf;566231 Wrote:
>
> There is a menu option to do just that: turning it into some quasi off
> state and believing it is then ok to detach a USB drive would lead
> people to forget that the drive is still being read by some other
> player...
>
> You would have to bring up a dialog box: "I am not turning off: the
> Kitchen player is still attached... "
>
I agree, it's not easy to get this user friendly both when used as
single player (as most mass market users use it) and when used in a
setup with multiple players (as many more advanced users use it). I
just feel that sometimes we tend to make it more complicated for non
technical users just to make it work really good for people on this
forum who typically is more advanced users. I suspect that most users
that use the built-in server in the Touch are only going to use it for
a single player (the Touch itself). People with many players are
probably also going to want the more advanced features which is
available if you have a separate Squeezebox Server on a computer. There
are exceptions to this rule, but I think most users with many players
are going to be happier with a separate server.
For a non technical users with only a single player, I still feel that
most would just want to turn off the device to be sure it's safe to
disconnect the USB drive. Actually, most of them probably just expect
to stop music and then be able to disconnect the USB drive, something
that's not safe on a Windows formatted drive.
However, maybe I'm getting a bit off topic. Assuming the screen off
screen saver decreases the power uses and the USB hard drive doesn't
use a lot of power when it isn't used, that should be enough. For
people that's not satisfied until the device is completely off, get a
separate power switch because the Touch hardware will not get one. It's
not possible to add one in software since there isn't any physical
button that can be used to turn it on afterwards. The future will tell
if future products will have an off switch but I suspect they won't,
some low power standby mode will make most users happier.
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