sgmlaw wrote: 
> Depending on what version of LMS you are running, I recall that the
> Windows installer had a full uninstallation option of all user
> configuration settings (at least the official versions did).  I have not
> run LMS on a Windows machine in a while, and now run 7.9 in beta without
> troubles, so do not know if the latest Windows betas still include that
> feature.
> 
> Otherwise, here is a rough idea of where you should find the LMS server
> files in Windows to assure a clean install, including any surviving
> config and settings files: 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Logitech_Media_Server_file_locations
> 
> 
> The locations for Win10 should be roughly similar to those for Win7, but
> if not, others will chime in.  Start with any available native uninstall
> option under Windows Settings (or whatever the latest version of Win10
> calls it these days).  After any uninstall, you should go down the list
> of file locations and delete all of those files, folders and
> directories.  Don't over delete a larger root folder or directory which
> might tank other programs.  Then be sure to empty your recycle bin.  If
> you want to first back them up to a thumb drive or other backup location
> for peace of mind, you can do that too.  I always strongly recommend
> that you backup your favorites and playlist files in any event, as they
> may represent a lot of past work to you, and you can revert back to them
> once everything is working again.  It is easy to back up something
> before deleting it, but very difficult to recover something once
> deleted.  
> 
> After deleting all identified files, folders and directories, hard
> reboot the machine (full power down and manual restart by power button).
> Where applicable, I would then normally search Windows Registry to
> locate and scrub any remaining LMS entries, if any.  But I do not
> recommend that step unless you are very familiar with how the Registry
> works.  If you corrupt the Registry, the OS may not properly boot up.  I
> don't recommend automatic Registry scrubbers or optimizers, as my
> experience is that they can be too aggressive and cause problems.  Do it
> manually if you do it at all.  And be sure to backup the system if you
> decide to ever take that step.  After any registry modifications, again
> reboot the machine.  LMS should be completely gone, and you should now
> be able to reinstall it with default settings.
> 
> But again, I would not conclude that LMS is the cause just yet.  I would
> start progressively disabling or adding express LMS exceptions to
> various Windows programs that potentially block incoming connections,
> such as Defender (which I have not run for ages, use something better
> such as Eset) and the Windows Firewall, just to make sure that it is not
> an overly aggressive gatekeeper resetting defaults and blocking after
> whatever the LMS installer program runs.  When I did run LMS in Windows,
> it would sometimes aggressively block some LMS players, and in
> particular SqueezePlay, unless multiple express exceptions were entered.
> And to be honest, Windows 'Firewall' is not that much of a firewall
> anyway.  If you have a robust hardware firewall, you can probably get
> rid of it and a lot of headaches it causes, by disabling it outright. 
> Your call.  
> 
> Just out of curiosity, what router are you running, and what is the
> firmware (native or third-party)?   Newer router models (particularly
> the gaming models) now have much more aggressive antimalware protections
> than in years past, and will block what they identify as malware from
> passing across the network to other machines to limit infection spread.
> 
> At some point if these steps do not locate the jam, I would temporarily
> disconnect the router from your gateway (and the Internet) and then
> progressively shut down or otherwise completely disable Windows
> remaining networking protections on that machine, one by one, starting
> with the Av and firewall, until the machine is running 'naked', with as
> few possible networking limitations as possible.
> 
> With Windows, as with later versions of OSX, you might also want to
> check to make sure that file sharing permissions have not been adversely
> affected to prevent access to or sharing of LMS resources.  I just had
> this happen in OSX a couple months ago with the upgrade to Mojave. 
> Correcting the file share settings snapped everything back to normal. 
> But because MS updates Windows so frequently anymore, it is probably
> hard for you to pinpoint if there were any recent OS changes that
> triggered a settings change.
> 
> I tend to think you have a networking and/or networking settings
> conflict, which is a little broader than something in LMS.  As you have
> only recently started using LMS for access to local media on the host
> machine, that should give you a bit of a clue where the trouble could be
> originating.
> 
> But others seem to think it may be a rogue plug in or some other
> ancillary cause, and they may be the better experts here.  I have been
> involved with IT for decades ancillary to my profession, and am a bit of
> a networking savant.  It has naturally dovetailed into my audio hobby as
> the technology has evolved.  But I do not compile code, and can barely
> remember DOS anymore.  You will have to make up your own mind, and I do
> not intend to shove any diagnosis and remedy path on anyone. 
> _So_I_am_not_planning_to_offer_any_further_diagnostic_advice_in_this_thread_unless_you_specifically_ask_me_for_it._
> 
> Post:  I see you are running the 11/26 version of LMS 7.9.  Please note
> there is a new beta out today, so if you do decide any further installs,
> you may want to know that.  Also, looking at your server.log file, I
> would take a closer look at your file permissions and sharing settings.
> 
> I would also take a look at this thread from a few months ago: 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109518-Server-taking-12-14-hours-to-start

I didn't say that I only recently started using LMS to access local
media.  I stated that I had not accessed local media in a while as I've
been connecting directly to MySqueezebox.com. However, I have used it to
connect to local media through out the year and for many years prior.  I
am running as of today the latest nightly 7.9 build.

With regards to both Microsoft Defender and Windows Firewall, they are
both fine (I work for the company).  

I have no problems editing the Windows Registry.  I've done it numerous
times over the years.  So, I will try that route next.  

With that said, I also just attempted a factory reset of the Touch by
pressing and holding the little button in the back until the unit
rebooted.  I am guessing that it did not actually reset the unit to
factory settings as I did not have to enter the encryption key to my
wireless network which I was expecting to have to do with a factory
reset.  Is there another way to reset the Touch to factory settings?

Again, this issue is not with just one of my Squeezeboxes.  This issue
is with all 4 of my squeezeboxes (3 Touch and 1 Classic).


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