Christian Boos wrote:
Hi Jeroen,Wow, it makes me a bit sad that you're taking things that way.Please don't - I'm really open to the discussion and don't want to enforce "my" way. I just had the impression that we left the discussion on #IRC with no real conclusion, so that's why I wanted to raise the topic again on trac-dev. It's nothing /that/ serious, I'd be OK with how things are now, but I really thought there would be no problem in discussing and trying out alternatives. We're only at the beginning, so experimenting should be OK - you had your time for experimenting in the sandbox and I didn't join the fun by then, but now that i18n is in trunk (and the more urgent stuff for 0.11 is behind me) I felt inclined to join the work on i18n, experiment and try to improve things there as well.
Why? Was there a problem with the way i18n was progressing? I understand that merging to trunk means it is out in the open, but I think you are mistaking that for a request for help.
That was really not the intent - I spent the whole day yesterday improving the translation infrastructure, fixing bugs (some were really critical, I hope you noticed), adding french translations (even if not perfect, for sure), etc. all this while my primary interest is /not/ in the translations, just because it's now in trunk and that I somehow feel co-responsible for it now. Some day I should really stop being the all purpose guy for tackling every outstanding issue, if all that I get back is such kind of acrimonious reaction when I dare moving things forward. See? It's easy to get pissed off in such a project when you put a lot of time and energy into it, and for the better or the worse, no one does it alone (quoique...), so please get over your first reaction.
Again, were things not moving forward? We have always let people own their little projects for the most part. For example, I wouldn't go make changes to the workflow system without checking with Eli first. If there was some huge problem and he disappeared for a while, thats a different story. However that is not the case, and I don't anticipate him leaving, so its still his game. Similarly you have been mostly left alone on the wiki formatter and parser system lately. I only ask you extend this courtesy to others.
So I'd really appreciate if you could get back to my previous mail (of yesterday) and answer to the open points I raised there, comment and criticize what I presented (e.g. that tag_ stuff is probably not perfect, feel free to beat it up).
This is a different issue, and trying to mingle the two is also unhelpful. --Noah
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