[Finally got Internet again.] -On [20080513 19:55], Christian Boos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I just had the impression that we left the discussion on #IRC with no >real conclusion, so that's why I wanted to raise the topic again on >trac-dev. It's nothing /that/ serious,
I take translations quite seriously. As does anyone I know who works on this kind of subject. There's more involved than 'simple translation'. >We're only at the beginning, so experimenting should be OK - you had your >time for experimenting in the sandbox and I didn't join the fun by then, >but now that i18n is in trunk (and the more urgent stuff for 0.11 is behind >me) I felt inclined to join the work on i18n, experiment and try to improve >things there as well. I am not sure how you intended this, but the way you formulated this is sounds as if I only had a certain right while this was in the branch. And the way you proceeded did not give me the feeling of joining, but rather putting down your view as the only way forward. >Not a big deal really: 0.12/TracInstall presents the minimal things an >user has to do in order to get the translations and TracL10N is aimed at >translators and developers with much more detailed instructions. And TracL10N reflects your opinion on the workflow despite my objections. I totally do not agree with your stance that people should have to run Trac to contribute translations. And you have shown that you are not aware how translations in open source projects get handled, which is quite ok, but then I am baffled why you put forth your own idea. >Look again at those changesets - I didn't remove trac/locale/messages.pot. >Sorry for having touched to the i18n part, but hey, that's what you get >when moving to trunk, it means everyone is invited to contribute (please >note that I presented the actual changes on Trac-dev before going on). I am fully aware, but at the same time the amount of commits I've still been making would have been quite a clear indicator that I was working on that all. Furthermore, I've said I'd look into it. >Please accept my apologies, as you have obviously taken my >remarks/changes in a bad way. I wrote my email without any anger and just stated it as I saw things. >Some day I should really stop being the all >purpose guy for tackling every outstanding issue, if all that I get back >is such kind of acrimonious reaction when I dare moving things forward. Are you trying to say that because you put in effort to 'dare moving things forward' your opinion is worth more than someone else's? I am definitely not disputing your massive involvement, especially compared to mine, and quite frankly it has been one of the reasons why I have not been actively vocal. Given my contributions, who am I to complain? And that's a situation I am uncomfortable with especially when objections seemingly are being overturned. And when that happens I'll just divert my energy and attention elsewhere since my involvement will not matter anyway. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(-at-)in-nomine.org> / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind..? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
