Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> On May 12, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Christian Boos wrote:
>   
>> Now, on a related note but still on the very "make i18n practicable"
>> subject, I've started to improve the documentation related to
>> translations. While the level of documentation was good enough for me
>> (thanks Jeroen for getting me started on this!), I think more detailed
>> guidelines should be given to translators, so that they can more
>> effectively contribute.
>>
>> For me, it makes absolutely no sense that translators contribute
>> translations without at the same time running their translated version
>> of Trac and verifying how good their translations are in context. A
>> given translation that maybe looks fine in the .po file may seem wrong
>> once seen in context within Trac (I verified this more than once  
>> with my
>> own bits of french translations).
>>
>> As the translators should have a running Trac for their tests, they  
>> also
>> need to have at hand all the toolchain (Python, Genshi and Babel). The
>> only constraint being that everybody needs to have the exact /same/
>> versions of the tools, so that there's no variation in the msgids.  
>> This
>> is what I've started to document in the TracL10N page
>> (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracL10N?version=57) and we should
>> continue to do so as the toolchain evolves.
>>
>> If we can agree on the above, there will be no point in continuing to
>> keep the trac/locale/messages.pot in the repository, neither to store
>> catalog updates without contributing actual translation enhancements.
>> This is simply useless as anyone following the guidelines above can
>> replay those steps and regenerate those files in exactly the same way.
>> Otherwise, the real changes are lost among the noise.
>>     
>
> We already went over this and made it very clear to you that we don't  
> all agree on this point. 

Well, IIRC, only asmodai and you shared the opinion that those 
changesets weren't a problem, others were inclined to think more like 
me. Plus cmlenz and eblot were not part of that discussion, and I think 
their opinion matters. So I don't see the problem in presenting my 
arguments again, in a more structured way, on a discussion list were the 
topic can reach a wider audience (translators and other Trac contributors).

-- Christian


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