on Fri May 30 2008, "Noah Kantrowitz" <noah-AT-coderanger.net> wrote:

> This would be a part of the long-fabled trac-hacks++ Alec and I have been
> discussing over the last year or so. I think this installer will solve the
> _real_ problem people are having. Its not that lots of plugins are a bad
> idea, they are just annoying to get working. Put this installer in Trac
> core, and you get the experience I think everyone wants.

I'm sorry, I have to disagree.  Even as someone who's willing (when
necessary) to hack plugins and hack the Trac core to make them work
right in my environment, my problems with plugins are the same as some
others have mentioned in this thread.  I need too many of them just to
get basic functionality and their compatibility with the latest Trac is
not always well-maintained.

Noah, are you hearing about different kinds of plugin problems from
other people, or are you saying something like that nobody who is
complaining really understands the problem they're having?

The economics of bringing a few mature, stable, and widely-needed
plugins into the official distribution are clear to me: when Trac makes
a code-breaking change, it's much easier to coordinate the code
transformations needed to keep all those plugins running.  Often, I'm
sure, one person is doing a fairly mechanical scan through the Trac code
and can take care of everything in one shot.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com


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